IF, and I do mean IF the B58 is better than the N54, by transitive property the B58 is then better than the 2JZ. Do you know if there's any chasis differences when it comes to the 335i and 328i? Rather than swap in a stock transmission I went ahead and did an HP70 swap out of a diesel 430d. Join Date: Jun 2017 . Of the eight BMWs I had, the M3 was my least favorite. So much so that I'd prefer it over the N55. Appreciate 0 Quote 04-23-2022, 05:40 PM #5: turnsignalslol. 4. N52 Intake Manifold Horsepower Gains: ~20hp (328i) and ~30-35hp (325i) Buy Here: N52 330i 3-Stage Intake Manifold. I'd sooner swap a boat anchor instead of the N20, there're about worth the same. Welcome to N54Tuning, your one stop shop for all your BMW Tuning and BMW Performance Modifications for the N54, N55, N20, N26, S55, B58/B48 and other BMW platforms! Tags 320i e90 e92 engine swap n20. G22Model Year: 2020 + . gmail ! I have a full e92 335 missing motor and box if you need parts. E90 / E91 / E92 / E93Model Year: 2006 - 2011. B58 turbo swap? This makes no sense, but I love it. N55 is my preferred engine in the E92 lineup. Are you saying that the cylinder walls are bare aluminum? 320xi f30 swapped in 340xi. . Tags 340i downpipe jb4 mod turbo. As a general rule, the rough lifespan of these BMW parts is as follows: Stock BMW, minimal aggressive driving Spark Plugs: 40,000 - 50,000 miles Ignition Coils: 50,000 - 65,000 miles Heavily modified BMW, significant aggressive driving Spark Plugs: 15,000 miles Ignition Coils: 20,000 - 25,000 miles Cool idea, but it will be very very expensive. It was a post on the M2 page on Facebook. He must be an electronics genius to make every system on the car work as stock with that swap B58. I'd rather the N55 between the two (N54 vs N55) I know you can do more mods and tuning with the N54, but reliability matters more to me personally. This thread was never updated, but was perhaps updated on social media elsewhere: so has anyone successfully swapped a B58 into an F30 which was previously an N20 ? Such a better motor than the N55. At least one of them has to be your style. Why walk up a mountain when you dont have to? The whole powertrain system and electronics will need to be modified, this is a complete custom change. Hello guys i know that this is not the appropriate forum thread to write this, But i am planning on swaping a B58 engine in my BMW 120i E87 2005 but i have lots of questions about it, I don't have much knowledge to help you. So even inner wheel arches on a chassis that looked identical from the outside is different between the models. Theyre infamous for this. I have a E46 Coupe race car currently with a M54 3.0 Motor. We also have tons of content about N55 upgrades such as N55 fueling mods, turbo upgrades, and so much more! We uploaded the update 10 minutes ago! Or a Supra if automatic is your thing. Ok saying that the N54 is german 2jz is wrong as the 2JZ-GTE is actually German LOL. I'm not a big fan of E90's. Use a 5/64" (2mm) flat blade screwdriver to "push" the connector from the back of the socket housing. The 340i downpipe is machined from SS304 aircraft-grade stainless steel and are tig welded in hous A twin scroll turbocharger increases efficiency thereby decreasing turbo spool time, increasing power, and allows the cylinders to run cooler. Guys spent 3 weeks for making complete result. How does it's Crank Hub do compared to the S55? G22Model Year: 2020 + Previous Generations; F32 / F33Model Year: 2013 - 2019. Held rain or shine. Automotive flea market with over 100 indoor vendor spaces and unlimited outdoor spaces and car corral. The B58 has not bested the N54. A B58 with a DCT is what I always wanted the M2 to be. Which body would work the best for swapping the B58 into. I cannot imagine the level of reverse engineering to get everything to work. Posts. Hi guys, after an M5 F10 full swap been done, just got an B58 of an 140i ready to swap. B58 In an E39 Is it possible? 2023 X3 M40i | 2018 M3 Comp - Sold | 2017 340i - Sold | 2014 328i - Sold, I'd love to have the f8x chassis with s58 and dct and maybe g8x suspension. Thread Tools: Search this Thread 01-05-2018, 06:57 AM #1: billabum. I received ended car on 28 March, how I remember. pretty sure the motor and setup would fit, just would be custom and expensive. He must be an electronics genius to make every system on the car work as stock with that swap B58. com [Download RAW message or body] Hi Daniel, On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 11:10 PM, Daniel Kiper <dani 4 doors is 2 doors too many. I had been thinking about swap since October, but made it in March. Anything is possible, just time and money. On top of that because it's a closed deck the cylinder walls aremy as well cooled as the N54 and that will only expedite the failure. Waste of time and money. Before we begin, I have an F31 Touring, which was only offered in the US with the N20/N26, B48 or N47. That is impressive! according to leebmann24 , 89 kg for the 70 and 81 kg for the 50, great writewe need more these kind of write ups on the forum, The F20 was never equipped with an HP70 at the factory, unlike the F30 and the like. It's not even sleeved. I'm sure it'd still be a nightmare but less of a nightmare than a b58 swap. I also saw someone with a 2015 320xi pre-lci manage to have a B58 swapped into his F30. E90 / E91 / E92 / E93Model Year: 2006 - 2011. F40Model Year: . Push the connector into the new socket housing as far as you can with your fingers. I have personally witnessed a 318i transformed into a 325i on an e46 chassis and my gosh there are so many differences from brakes, suspension, diff, engine, tranny, electronics, cluster, steering update, seats, even rear parcel shelf where rear speakers sit is different material, wiring, interior bits and pieces. What do you mean it's bot sleeved? When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Id entertain the science of installing a B58 engine into a 2010 e61 535xi wagon (N54 engine). I don't know what the point would be to swab a b58 and use a standalone when going to an m54b30 turbo with standalone should be a little easier. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. 4. I have a 2011 E90 335i that just spun a rod bearing. www.n54tuning.com / mike@n54tuning.com Your # 1 Source for BMW Performance Parts at the LOWEST Prices! I thought about s55 firstly, but lots of guys said that it would be much harder to install and tuning will cost more too. G82Model Year: 2021 + Previous Generations; F82Model Year: 2014 - 2020. The second N52 mod we're discussing is a performance intake. I've been on real-oem seeing what part numbers are the same between the 435 and the 440, and a lot of the modules match up, even things like front and rear subframes match and things like that.. 1. n52 also had this. I do love the M240i but a 335i E92 has been my dream car for yeeaaarrss. Press J to jump to the feed. It'll require all wiring, DME, trans and all assoc computers steering, then all interior tech to match too such as cluster AC radio etc. which one will u pick to swap in it? The B58M30 01 is a Bavarian motor that found its way under the hood of the Mk V Supra as part of the joint-venture that saw the two carmakers developing the new-generation sportscars together, with. BMW's N52 engine uses an intake designed to minimize noise rather than maximize airflow. 2. If you really want an E92, I mean damn, that car came with the N54, N55, and S65. This replacement charge pipe features all-aluminum construction, high-quality glossy black finish, CNC machined flanges, 2 optional 1/8" NPT methanol bungs, OEM style mounting hardware for a direct fit, and a lifetime warranty. No light on the dash no check engine it will be as if it came from the factory. Silly question, but is this a comparable upgrade to the likes of the new pure drivetrain solutions 8hp50 transmission? Without a doubt. Does anyone know if you can put a BMW B58 engine into a 2011-2013 BMW 335i coupe (N55 engine), Also curious if this would work for the 2007-2011 335i coupe. shouldn't be too bad considering that the B58 sits on the F chassis, B58 block is pretty similar to the S58. Do all of those fixes for 4k and drive the crap out of it. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. You'd need some aftermarket mods as well. The swap will be very expensive and for that cost you'd be better off putting that money towards buying a car with a B58 in it. Car is a manual, would have been even better to have a B58 DCT! Mind you once you are done you will probably need preventative replacement parts on the engine that you have sourced second hand and that's several k more to bring it to 'new' condition. Id sooner swap a boat anchor instead of the N20, therere about worth the same. G22Model Year: 2020 + Previous Generations; F32 / F33Model Year: 2013 - 2019. E90 / E92Model Year: 2007 - 2013. Saw this post linked from the 6MT trans limit discussion. A 335i is more than just the engine. M4. E46Model Year: 2000 - 2006. G22Model Year: 2020 + Previous Generations; F32 / F33Model Year: 2013 - 2019. I wouldnt. They said that its harder to install in pre lci f30 with n20, how they did, cause of big difference between pre lci and lci in electronic system. Different transmission and differential. 4. The BMS Elite is the highest quality B58 charge pipe upgrade on the market. VS - Upgraded Fuel Line 6AN E-Chassis F-Chassis. There will be a problem with the driveshafts, from which they will fit, the transfer case itself also differs in the year of manufacture, despite the same model ACL35, perhaps something else will go crooked)). Where else to find out about the problems with such a replacement for X-drive. It would require WAY to much work to even be remotely worth it. From $586.68/mo with View sample plans DCT Swap Type Quantity Add to Cart VS now officially offers swap services. _____ Rep. 19. Held rain or shine 7 am to 2 pm. M4. Home / N55. Contact: Lester Manwiller - 610-823-4656; hamburgswapmeet@ontelaunneeaaca.com. The B58 is probably a much more natural transplant since that chassis already comes with it. $1,601.00. We were one of the first to do AT to MT swap a few years back and now we have perfected the auto to dct swap. VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. It would be one hell of a sleeper. There's really no reason to put a B58 in an E9X car. Drives: 2011 LCI 320i. 95C9EB54-ACFF-4E23-AD5D-8C082172A175.jpeg. Find a 335i with the parts you want. 1 Reply More posts you may like Wow Awesome write up! N55 engine swap into E36 BMW cheap and easy DIY - YouTube 0:00 / 1:29:01 N55 engine swap into E36 BMW cheap and easy DIY HakenE30 1.38K subscribers Subscribe 757 Share Save 31K views 1 year. com> Date: 2017-09-13 5:27:43 Message-ID: CABfawhkkZutU417RBw6+CRto=9P1G8ay0NS_OVxAhrpTL_o2hw mail ! Both options are cheaper and work better than what you're asking. Now this is interesting. However, if you're trying to run heavy E85 mixtures you'll probably cap this stage 1 Dorch HPFP well before 550whp. Bimmerpost Model Selection. Poor choice for a race car ??? Once the car was completed, we took it for a test and then took an original 325i for a test. I want to know how I can fit the G80 grilles to my F80. Obviously that is an impossibility and we should do our best to prevent any further misinformation from spreading. FIRST b58 swapped e36 470HP 700+NM DRIFT 34,728 views Sep 22, 2021 857 Dislike Share Save Ostap Demkiv 256 subscribers B58B30A 2018 M140i engine 403bhp 700Nm 100RON tune @afterfix SCS Delta GDI6. IF, and I do mean IF the B58 is better than the N54, by transitive property the B58 is then better than the 2JZ. I am Grisha from Rostov, Russia. the 340 is the upgraded 335 and it has been 10 years so yea its about time BMW release an engine as good as the N54 (power wise). Hamburg, PA. Hamburg Automotive Swap Meet & Car Corral, Hamburg Field House, 127 S. Fourth St. (rear), Hamburg, PA. Held 7:00 a.m. to 2:00 p.m. Over 100 indoor spaces and unlimited outdoor spaces plus car corral. Engine / Drivetrain / Exhaust / Bolt-ons / Tuning. Nikasil coating on the cylinder walls. JavaScript is disabled. Funny that I should stumble on this thread . EDIT: Why not just go with the n54, do a full engine out service and get it working like new again with some aftermarket turbos? Refreshments available. But I could be talking out my ass so please correct me if I'm wrong. so i want to do an engine swap and get the b58 on my 428i! I bought the 4 cylinder because it is my daily driver and dont want to spend a ton on gasoline but it just lacks torque. I wouldn't call this a "swap" as you can't just swap the engine. Although cost is higher you'll be getting a new built transmission and not a used one. 4. I am intrigued to see a DCT equipped S58. It's been done before. I guess that is kinda what I'm asking. However, they only offer products for 2013+ N55 engines. No need for a b58. Still saving up for the car itself. Second Lieutenant . Can I swap to an S58? Obviously that is an impossibility and we should do our best to prevent any further misinformation from spreading. F30 335i xDrive PWG - MPPK Flash, Got a new motor and the hpfp is different, To become a vendor visit: https://bit.ly/ss-vendor-apply. From $650 View. recently blew up my stock HP50 transmission in my 340i. CALL A PRODUCT EXPERT NOW AT 602-437-2101 Install Effort $2,449.99 Wastegate Flange Selection Dual 44mm Wastegate Flanges + $2,599.99 I already got a tune but that did not really make a difference. Also we lost 10 days on delivering new cooling pipes instead broken, which were damaged during delivering of swap kit. If you like the e9x, but an n54 version thats been a victim of rod bearing failure or turbos that need replacing. I haven't found any definitive answers for this question but how interchangeable are the N55s from different years and chassis, so I was hoping the wisdom of the forum could illuminate what would work with what. It is not financially viable. E46Model Year: 2000 - 2006. However once you start upgrading the turbo, even though it's a closed deck block, it doesn't have the forged international components. ago Funny that I should stumble on this thread . 4. Everything should bolt up to the 435 correct? Very interesting swap, so if I understand you right, you have a B58 swapped into your 320i xDrive? bimmerfest.com is an independent BMW enthusiast website owned and operated by VerticalScope Inc. B58 M2 is the perfect combo IMO. New Member. This motor is very easy to remove,,,plenty of room in the engine compartment,,,,,hopefully I can do the job in the aloud factory time limit of 16 hour,,,,,today of 6 hours of work,,,,I removed the engine and trans,,,removed the old engine,,,swapped over the new engine,,,,and swapped over the intake manifold,alternator,a/c compressor and starter Definitely something to go with for X-drive just on the ease of install/programming alone. I'm not sure if I missed it, but is the B58 closed deck? Can pwg parts be swapped over to ewg engine, Cts turbo xdrive lowering spring set **new product**, New here! Vader Solution . Same with the flywheel as mentioned above. 5. Laverne: '18 F80 Base 6MT | Paul's E85 | Stock Turbos | Kies Hub | FBOs | 7sec 60-130 | 11.7@124 (Sold in Feb). I'd love to hear the nitty gritty details about getting ECU to play nice. bimmerfest.com is not in any way affiliated with Bayerische Motoren Werke AG. I think SC_B5X was pushing around 650whp? I know that B58 has a better intercooler and overall engine cooling, which allows it to make more efficient power. There is a guy on IG with an F31 who just sourced 440i B58 motor and will be doing the swap in next few months. E-Chassis DCT Swap $6,500.00 Tax included. Except the M2 is actually a very nice looking car. You're a fucking G for taking the time to write this out for the rest of us that are inevitably gonna blow our HP50. Yes it was done to the T at the end but only because the parts were outsourced dead cheap and it still cost the person $10k with everything. Just buy an M240i 6MT if you want a B58 in the sportiest manual chassis it came in. [prev in list] [next in list] [prev in thread] [next in thread] List: xen-devel Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] Booting signed xen.efi through shim From: Tamas K Lengyel <tamas tklengyel ! I am just curious if it would be possible to engine swap a 2008 E92 320i with the more modern turbo N20/B48 engine. E90 / E92Model Year: 2007 - 2013. Or even the 328i coupe from 2007-2013, in order to save money buying my dream bmw body style, the glorious E92. A. Adalbert_77 292 Replies. Sure, it'll fit dimension-wise but you'll have to retrofit so much to make it work and communicate properly with everything. Do you have any videos on youtube? i just want to know ask why no one will swap a b58b30 in it? Did you check the weight difference between the 50 and 70? N55 Engine / Drivetrain / Exhaust / Bolt-ons / Tuning. High capacity 5 1/2" deep front sump design with side kick outs for maximum oil capacity 1/2" thick CNC machined 6061 Billet Aluminum Flange and back plate Machined gasket surface to ensure no gasket leaks Rigid design like the OEM GM pan to ensure maximum strength and durability Find amazing local prices on Bmw n47 engine for sale Shop hassle-free with Gumtree, your local buying & selling community. Ordinary person who buys bit by bit first either through dealer or outsourcing was something like $15k plus more like $20k. Items for everyone including white elephants. It would be a pure race car build at that point, which, if you're doing such a thing, is a heavy chassic and poor choice for a race car anyway. You really might as well buy a 135i or an M140i from the get-go. F30POST > Technical Forums > N20, N26, B46, B48 Turbo Engine / Drivetrain / Exhaust Modifications > N55/B58 swap into N20 Touring. 08-12-2021, 12:16 PM. BMW N52 Performance Mods - Intake Upgrade. Do you have more photos of the swap process? I also saw someone with a 2015 320xi pre-lci manage to have a B58 swapped into his F30. VS - HeadPort Plugging Kit N54 N55 S55 B58. Not when 335is are as cheap as they are. On an e90, Everything is dearer. N54/N55 has 300hp & 300 lb-ft of torque while the B58 has 382hp & 369 lb-ft of torque. E90 / E91 / E92 / E93Model Year: 2006 - 2011. I'm not dead set on an E90, I'm dead set on a E92, E90 - has 4 doors E92 - has 2 doors E93 - convertible. LOVED it right up until a guy nailed the front end and totaled it. Way cheaper and easier to just buy a 335i, debage it and slap a 320i badge on. Location: Los Angeles, CA and Phoenix, AZ. This is very cool, I've been looking at more information on B58 swaps because the N55 in my 435 isn't doing particularly great.. when it blows I really want to swap a B58 because I dislike the N55. My question are. In Roundel magazine July 2020, Alex McCulloch writes, "An engine swap is not for the faint of heart" and also says, " the last 10% [of the swap] can be 90% of the heartache". So the swap itself isn't really worth it in your opinion? The main candidate for an engine swap is the B58 powerplant. Thank you for information. hello im fairly new to this car thing too.. i recently purchased my 428I about 7 months ago and im not going to lie i love my car and the n20 engine has been very reliable to me but to be honest i want to go on with my build and proceed with more power bc the n20 can only hold so much power before it blows up. JavaScript is disabled. Is the 335i and 328i E92 BMW different at all other than the engine it comes with? Rep. 296. Drives: 2011 LCI 320i. Just buy a 335? You can't swap in a b58 into anything older due to how bmw changed communication lines/data bus lines. shouldn't be too bad considering that the B58 sits on the F chassis, B58 block is pretty similar to the S58. Regular price $49.95 View. Regular price $140 View. Jul 30, 2022. You have to run Meth to break 400whp, correct? M4. That sounds like a very very very complicated swap if you're trying to run it off of the factory systems. Anyone know if they offer the build kit for us to build the trans ourselves? 4. The "Stuck-in-Comfort" mode issue should be now fixed for all cars. I cannot imagine the level of reverse engineering to get . Only reason I was asking if you can swap the B58 into a 335i coupe is because I was reading about the reliability and performance reviews on the B58, and it seems like an engine made by the BMW Gods. Therefor you need to buy an N57 flywheel, luckily these can be found cheap on eBay ($50-$100 from overseas, or . Has anyone try or do a b58 swap into a e30? G82Model Year: 2021 + Previous Generations . Jump to Latest Follow . Our page dedicated to the amazing BMW N55 3.0 inline-6 turbo engine. I wouldnt call this a swap as you cant just swap the engine. Cool idea. Possible, but as others have said. any swap is possible with enough money, the question is : is it worth it? Its not worth it at all. That is impressive! Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, Former Technician // E90 335D // G20 330i, BMW Lvl 1 Master Technician, HV Specialist, Gen 5 Certified. Heh, i'm assuming they immediately tuned it, but for a brief second this was probably an engine swap car with the new engine making less power than the original one. I remember Terry saying somewhere that the factory fueling is capped at right around 400 whp and the only way around it is TBI, PI, Meth, etc. Whoever owns this car is my hero. SKU: KSE30. The stage 1 kit comes in at $1,199 and is able to support roughly 550whp. An S55 swap would definitely be an interesting one! B58 Turbo Engine / Drivetrain / Exhaust Modifications. Car is a manual, would have been even better to have a B58 DCT! We in North America do not know the E87 nor the N46 so we likely can't be of much help. Not worth it at all. MTC Motorsport BMW M140i M240i 340i 440i 540i and 740i 4.5" stainless steel decat downpipe for B58 engine only This will NOT fit the 2018 onwards models with the PPF filter unless it has been coded out and can be removed. so decided to swap a B58 into it. N55, S55, B58 none of them have dethroned the king, There are a few threads in this forum showing n54s with no meth just FBO e85 mix with inlets that are hitting over 500whp, S55 did, but its in a different price bracket lol, N54 Turbo Engine / Drivetrain / Exhaust Modifications - 335i, http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho1213066&page=4. I'll take one for the team, and I will happily let someone use my car to find out. E81 / E82 . E90/E91/E92/E93 (2006 - 2013) E39 (1997 - 2003) E46 (1999 - 2006) E36 (1991 - 1999) E60 / E61 (2004 - 2010) Top Contributors this Month View All shawnsheridan 428 Replies. Come join the discussion about Bimmerfest events, production numbers, programming, performance, modifications, classifieds, troubleshooting, maintenance, and more! :). I don't have either ATM. Any challenges you had because the 320 body? We have tons of content for the N55, and we're always adding more. Is it viable? Also I made a choice with b58, because I thought in that time that with supra release tuners would pay much more attention for this platform. Hello guys i know that this is not the appropriate forum thread to write this, But i am planning on swaping a B58 engine in my BMW 120i E87 2005 but i have lots of questions about it. But I don't know if that exists yet, and many if not most features in the car would work after besides the engine. On the first time I couldnt decide about which engine I want. 5. That's pretty cool. If something ever happens to my N55 I might consider this. I had the hardtop coupe version of that car (e92). N20, N26, B46, B48 Turbo Engine / Drivetrain / Exhaust Modifications, https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh.php?t=1548060. Shipping: Buy it. That doesn't sound right. For these guys it wasnt challenging, also my car was fourth or fifth with swapped engine, which made by their hands). E46Model Year: 2000 - 2006. I would reach out to them as a resource, they'll probably be ablee to provide some insight into the process, even if they worked with an S55 rather than a B58. Content on bimmerfest.com is generated by its users. VS - Wilwood Drag Brake Kit E90 E91 E92 E93 E82. Good point. E90/E91/E92/E93 (2006 - 2013) N20/B48 swap 2008 E92 320i. G22Model Year: 2020 + You are using an out of date browser. Pure's built transmission is probably the absolute best option for upgraded transmissions we have right now, but also the most expensive coming in at $6000 for their Stage 1 transmission. But I support this swap 10000%. 5. A. Autoputzer 160 Replies. E90 / E92Model Year: 2007 - 2013. Meaning I don't think it will hold up well at 600whp+ power levels. B58 swap out questions. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Posts. Location: Hamburg Fire Co. Field House, 1127 South Fourth St, Hamburg, PA 19526. We realised that the original 325i had a thicker inner cover in the rear wheel arches to reduce road noise. Availability: "Due to the overwhelming popularity of our oil pans we are doing our best to keep up with the orders. I think better off just upgrading to M2 Comp but still cool to see. Stock turbos, the B58 is better. Is it worth it? This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. Try and keep the blade of the screwdriver on the rubber insulation while pushing to avoid puncturing the wires. Don't miss our N55 400+hp guide or N55 engine problems article. Cannot found anything on the web. M5. I have done this conversion on my own e91 320 lci since finding an lci e91 n54 proved very difficult and I find non lci rather dated in comparison. Provided you can get traction, it would chomp a lot of cars. 1 marcus45A1 5 mo. A friend of mine I chat with down at rk tunes sent this screenshot to me after it was sent to him. Does anyone know weather or not the B58 shares the same engine mounts as the M54B30? You must log in or register to reply here. It looks like the one you swapped in is lighter weight with all those cut outs. It sounds like it may have also dropped a valve, so in other words, I need a new engine. I found a complete B58 engine with ancillaries for a very decent price and due to the reason that my car has 250.000 Km (150.000 miles), Everything is starting to . Bringing the BMW community together. Appreciate 0 Quote Handicap friendly. The B58's smaller bore allows the engine to be shorter in overall length resulting in a stronger crankshaft, and the considerably longer stroke means longer connecting rods for reduced friction. Stock B58 Flywheel wont fit, it'll rub against the starter. Upstate Performance and Automotive Repair. I think the fact that the OP hasn't said anything shows a lot. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. Despite the benefits of a twin-scroll turbo as compared to a single single-scroll turbo, a true twin turbo setup mirrors the benefits of a twin-scroll turbo. Depending on the specific model you're looking at, power output ranges from 302hp and 295lb-ft ll the way up to 365hp and 369lb-ft. Allows for less friction for a quicker revving engine at the cost of cylinder strength. Question was mostly for my curiosity to determine if it's something I'd want to do down the line maybe. This is very cool, I've been looking at more information on B58 swaps because the N55 in my 435 isn't doing particularly great.. when it blows I really want to swap a B58 because I dislike the N55. Yes, there are major hard limits to what the factory car will supply fuel-wise. Dorch products are well-known when it comes to N55 fueling solutions. F90Model Year: 2018 + Previous Generations; . Jump to Latest Follow . Reliability + performance. now ive been told it is very possible and that it can be done but its going to take alot of money putting this in but im willing to do it. Edit: Got my answer, thanks for your help! . the new b58 engine is more lighter, it is a straight six engine, the torque are better than s65. Vader Solution. I suppose as long as you're starting with a bare bones skeleton e92, frame only, you might be able to Frankenstein one together? TF-Works BMW E30 K-Swap Kit - Phase 1. Built by KK-Performance. 8. I'm surprised by the flywheel picture. Sponsor: Ontelaunee Region AACA. If it's an M/T car i'm sure they got it out of a M240i and not a Supra or a G-series or something. It would make more sense and be much easier to install a N52B30 from an older 1 or 5 series. This would be a very cool swap but doesn't seem worth it at all. I can't tell you for sure, but there are a couple of guys on IG who have S55 swapped an F31. BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum > BMW E90/E92/E93 3-series General Forums > Regional Forums > Australia > BMW E90 320i engine swap to 335i. As we all know, the N54 is the german equivalent of the 2JZ. 2021+ Toyota Supra B58 A90 | 6 Port Top Mount Turbo Manifold SKU FR-TM-A90-B58-T4 Maximize Power and Spool with the 2021+ Toyota Supra B58 A90 6 Port Top Mount Turbo Manifold NEED HELP? The whole powertrain system and electronics will need to be modified, this is a complete custom change. Vader Solution. Post Reply Thread Tools: Search this Thread 07-26-2020, 12:19 AM #1: hon2bmw . Fettled M135i EB AT - gone but not forgotten: N55 Engine / Drivetrain / Exhaust / Bolt-ons / Tuning. A forum community dedicated to BMW owners and enthusiasts. G22Model Year: 2020 + Previous Generations; F32 / F33Model Year: 2013 - 2019. A lot of differences. I have a 2003 530i and my dad and I have recently started looking at options for an upgrade. It was used in pretty much everything BMW offered, from small coupes up to large SUVs, which is a testament to how versatile this engine is. Engine it will hold up well at 600whp+ power levels do an engine a... A stock transmission i went ahead and did an HP70 swap out of a diesel 430d weather not... Pa 19526: 2021 + Previous Generations ; F32 / F33Model Year 2006! The 335i and 328i E92 BMW different at all a full E92 335 missing motor and would. It right up until a guy nailed the front end and totaled it b58b30 in it in North do... 04-23-2022, 05:40 PM # 5: turnsignalslol, the N54, N55 and! 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