Due to the large amount of information gathered in this test, standard deviation and high/low velocities are not shown. For compact or subcompact pistols I tend to favor 9mm due to recoil considerations in the smaller, lighter guns, and the magazine capacity limitations. If you are going to use that short of a barreled P.C.C. Edit : You can get a firearms licence in this country but you have to be a farmer or pheasant shooter with an impeccable criminal history and with verified references and personality tests. That said -- memes are really meant to be funny and normally tongue-in-cheek :). It kills everything else. What We Use From target to self-defense, 9mm is an extremely diverse caliber. No one in their right mind willingly chooses to use FMJs in a pistol or rifle for self-defense. LEOs have completely different considerations. YouTube sets this cookie to store the video preferences of the user using embedded YouTube video. Yes you are right there is a lot more 9mm ammo than there are 45 ACP. The marines and FBI went to the 9 so women could qualify because only 1 in 10 can with a 45. though they cant come out and say so. 9mm Luger Results in fps Click here for a Muzzle Energy graph for the tests in this caliber. Hello. Lmao. My personal preference for a home defense handgun is a full-sized pistol chambered in .45 ACP. Itll help keep you consistent and on-target. What seemed like moments after making my calls to get .45, I was again on the line with several of the same fine companies to acquire some 9mm. But after doing extensive research I've come to the conclusion that the ultimate home defense gun other than a 12 gauge would be a 45 pistol like the CMMG Banshee with a suppressor. Did you know Eve was not the first woman? However, if you compare cartridges with similar sizes, you may find that the 40.-caliber has comparable speeds. Thats what I carry now.Always will.When that loud bitch goes off it gets everyones attention..especially the turd youre trying to ghost. He didn't make it and when they found the round it was in his neck. That is just simply a foolish claim to make. Ive never been under pressure but I was shocked at the 20-30% accuracy for LEO. Any 9mm up to 147 will increase all the way up to 17 none increase beyond that. Left out (one) seemingly small but (very) important step when take action time arrives. A heavy bullet going slow with the same energy as a light bullet going fast will transfer energy to the target better, but won't penetrate as well. Hornady 100 Gr. I noticed that also that new powders and more advanced bullet designs seem to ONLY apply to the 9mm. I'm sticking with ole tried and true 1911. Another benefit is that both are bottleneck cartridges dramatically lowering the chance of a failure to feed malfunction, an issue with both the 9mm and .45. I'm sure this was a terrible feeling for him. I carried and used the 45 ACP in the military. Glocks are the best semi auto, there's no debate about it. Wound channels identical, higher capacity, better follow-up, more platforms to choose from, cheaper to shoot plus . chicks dig guys who carry 9mm. You cant beat the trigger on a .45 1911. I've never had anyone die from being shot with any handgun round. : If you seek peace, prepare for war. This was the motto of its original manufacturer Deutsche Waffen- und Munitionsfabriken. as nickel-plated cases that resist corrosion and optimized propellants that burn quickly to reduce recoil and limit muzzle flash, help ensure that Critical Defense ammo is dependable in every situation. With so many differences, its essential that you understand how muzzle velocity will impact performance. If you can hit with one and allways misswith the others , I think I would chose the one you can make the most hits with, just from my own exsperance , I had some mild steel targets out at my home we used to shoot at all day and almost every day with .38 spl, And 9 mm, then I bought a kimber1911 The 45 acp has better stopping power. A .45 is good for inside the home. "ANY GUN will do!! There is such a variety of pistols in public use that we will not determine what guns are compatible with which loads. So instead of boasting about something that never happened, recognize actual achievements like the almost unimaginable amount of vehicles weapons ammunition & food that we produced & ferried across the Atlantic to Pacific support and supply all of the Allies and our seemingly miraculous (midway) battles w/ Imperial Japan. ps I have always thought, why do "they" argue the 9mm hollowpoints advanced and are the same performance as 45 now. These cookies ensure basic functionalities and security features of the website, anonymously. 45 bullets weigh a ton In a ammo can! Point and shoot, only need to hit my target oncethen they're down. This will eliminate the threat on fewer rounds. Well this is not the case I give you the words of Randy Garret. Some people prefer the heavier feel of a .45 ACP, while others find the light and slim nature of the 9mm easier to use. I am. Modern ammo has not only benefited the 9mm. Great article!! We are now restricted to 10 or less rounds in the mag here in Washington State. I'm going with the 45 because I'm also getting a Henry lever action rifle to match it. May be a great home defense gun, but far from ultimate . Energy at the target, which is considered critical to terminal performance, is enhanced when a bullet is traveling at a higher speed. So, get training. I would take the 1911 but some folks freak when they open carry. 9mm became the universal choice and approved by agency bookkeepers and bean counters. I would prefer to ha ve more rounds just in case. Although higher velocity projectiles always generate more kinetic energy they clearly do not produce deeper penetration, and when the velocities reach the levels common to today's magnums, the increases in velocity result in significantly reduced penetration. Shot placement and Round choice will be the determining factors for desired outcome. Speer 124 Grain 9mm Ammo Average Velocity: 1158 fps Average Muzzle Energy: 369 ft/lbs. The G30 is my EDC, the G36 is in my car's glove compartment. As a trauma room doctor pointed out in one article I was reading, bullets that leave the body are less effective than ones that stay in. My 45 is a Sig dual tone full size 1911 and I like the weight and the 5 inch barrel. How about THIS for a head fake?! Spray and pray LOL. .45 is for nostalgia crazed red necks that can't let go of the past. Thanks, Eric! A 9mm you feel comfortable carrying is better than the .45 or .44 mag you left home in your sock drawer. The __qca cookie is associated with Quantcast. And used on drugged up people both were effective. 9mm Luger rounds have a deeper penetration than other handgun calibers. This stands in contrast to the results from my .45 ACP test, which was relatively unaffected. Typically, a 9mm gun muzzle velocity ranges between 950 and 1150 fps depending on the bullet load and grain of the round. I try to get soft and hollow point ammo for both but it is far more expensive for 7.62 x 51. I have a 10mm I use with handloads for pig hunting. Whereas in .45, fully half of the rounds made 500 ft lb or more in a 6" barrel, and one round made better than 600 ft lb My son bought 00 because he thought it was a good idea to be absolutely sure he could take an intruder down, where birdshot might be 'iffy'. Going to the store I take my 9 with 124 gr hst. Only thing I would add is my home defense pistol fights me to my riflesince pistol rounds are weak compared to a good old 5.56. Back in the day, there was a revolver chambered in .600 Nitro Express. just saying. Recoil is largely the same between the 9x9mm and the .45 ACP. U.S.A. -(Ammoland.com)- Ever since I first mentioned doing a .45 ACP muzzle velocity article, people have been asking me if I would do a follow-up with the 9x19mm. In my case it was no weapons displayed (but you must always assume present) against a $h!t brick linebacker. It shows you like 9m you talk about both but talking about 45 it was more about 9m but talking about 9m it was 9m but I enjoyed to know it so me both. Even if your bullet is only traveling an inch, it will lose velocity, as air drag is steadily wearing down momentum. The Glock 43 offered the slowest MV with any given load, the Glock 19 always brought up the middle, and the G34 achieved the highest numbers. +P and +P+ rounds are available as well. Put several makes and models in your hand. Thanks for the tips Katherine. Expanding bullets passing through a bad guy should have little energy left, just don't miss. Both kills, but one kills instantly, the other allows for return fire from your attacker. I wrote a loooong rebuttal to your post, but I lost it so you don't have to read it now! Owning at least 1 9mm seems practical though, as availability of ammo is likely even in a SHTF situation. So much quicker to re-aim, quicker to re-fire and hence more accurate. Even if you think size > capacity or more bullets is better, you have to admit having bigger bulletsand having more bullets on tap are both worthy considerations when choosing one gun over the other. This anonymous data helps us to better understand users' needs and customize the website accordingly. What's the data source that claim is based on? 30% is being nice. I have found in my many years and many hundreds of thousands of rounds spent that longer barrels arent always more accurate or faster given a set of loads or controls. Once you're done with your YouTube videos, come back when you get some real world experience with that one 9mm you've taken to the range once. My choice, since my first 1911A back in 1953, to my Glocks G21SF, G30, and G36 of today. With boxes of 9mm Luger rounds being 30% to 40% cheaper than .45 ACP ammo, increased range time isnt going to break your budget. We were issued S&W .38 cal wheel guns. Both 9mm and .45 ACP workjust personal preference, imo. Who knows , maybe well all be carrying 5.7x28 in 20 years. When getting my LTC the instructor was gushing all over it because I was the only one without a Glock, which I actually do have as well, but just love the 96 so much. It's both in physical and mental ability. Luger designed his original 9mm to be lethal at 50 meters. Ive been doing this for 40 years. The G21 is for home defense. This, unfortunately takes time to accomplish. I agree with the .45 recoil being overblown. Pansies . Because out of all my handguns, this is the one I'm most accurate with. * lighter recoil faster follow up shot (see above) Something to remember when shopping around for a 9mm. Not a lick of science in this article. Where's the test evidence? One hit with a larger caliber is more debilitating than a smaller one. most dangerous game like cape buffalo are killed because a rifle with 6,000lbs + of energy at muzzle was used and that kind of energy shuts the nervous system down like flipping a lite switch. you can not have any mags that hold more then 10 rounds, so I had to buy 10 round mags for the model 59 and at the same time I found 10 round ags for the m1991A. Or blind them. Im from South America and police there uses 9mm round nose, enough to kill more outlaws in 1 month that all the US police in 5 years. When I stuck the wire in the hole I was very surprised to see that the bullet had completely penetrated the post, at least 12Read more . The bullet doesn't matter if you can't shoot it with some accuracy. I don't want to carry anything bigger. That being said, every one raves about the FPS of the 9mm. It is not an issue. Just a thought. The 9mm earned international attention following WWI, partly due to its relatively small dimensions that permitted the design of high capacity magazines. Youtube - Track the views of embedded videos. My experience has led me to the same conclusion. The choice for anybody should be what they are comfortable with and accurate with. I currently carry a .40 s&w. The cheaper sprays have less contents so don't spray as long. Muzzle velocity is something youll see on boxes of ammunition and on ballistics stat sheets, but you may not know exactly how muzzle velocity impacts performance. With that said I can control the amount of muzzle rise on my .45's much better than a 9mm. Certainly this is easy to understand with the .44 Magnum because it's increased velocity and mass produces essentially twice that of 9mm, but you can't say that about the other calibers. .45 vs 9mm? We also use Power Factor in competition which is bullet weight X velocity / 1000. I own both, a Colt Combat Commander .45 and a Glock compact 9mm. But really, the majority of gun deaths are either suicide or ignorance about how to properly operate the firearm , not malicious intent ! So I have 9s by SIG, Beretta, H&K, and Walther. **Specialty round for snub nose revolvers (low speed expansion)**, Copyright 2009 | Ballistics101.com | All rights reserved. But I think 9 millimeter Luger is a better carbine round over .45 Auto. I carry the XDx in 45 but I also carry 9mm in a PPQ. FBI dropped 0.40 not because 9mm comes even close to it just affirmative action that's all it is. As a civilian I doubt the I will need an ammo dump under my gun to defend my life. What-ever you choose.get practice. I have 38 special, 9mm, and a 12 GA shotgun at home. I have both, I have practiced more with the 45 ACP. What do you think? But in real life the first .45 causes a stun strong enough to slow the aggressor, the second may bring him to his knees. (Remember the linebacker.) Loved the part about the advancements in ammunition. In addition to this, the lower recoil, less wear, cheaper ammunition and higher capacity were all reasons that the report cited for the recent surge in orders of the ammunition from various police agencies. But opting out of some of these cookies may affect your browsing experience. Which is why spec ops and the FBI still have 45 acp in their arsenals. But no more. Large naval guns will have high length-to-diameter ratios, ranging between 38:1 to 50:1. 9mm can be a reasonable choice. Contact Us. Heavier bullets have more momentum at the same velocity as a lighter bullet. There is a difference between an LEO and a civilian. COOL STUFF : 25 ACP 32 ACP 327 Magnum 380 ACP 9mm Luger 357 Magnum 357 SIG 38 Special 38 Super 40 S&W 10mm Auto: 41 Magnum 44 Magnum 44 Special 45 ACP 45 GAP 45 Colt 454 Casull 460 Magnum 480 Ruger . The answer is 40SW. The downside of a Glock is that it is a Glock. The Wild Bill Hickok method of gun fighting: rapidly draw your gun, calmly stand your ground, carefully aim and press the trigger, observe the target fall, holster your gun, turnaround and walk away. As far as the size, my Colt m1991A ( .45 ) is no bigger then my S &W MODEL 59 (9MM ). Eventually. The LaserLyte is bore set low to compensate up to 300 yds. It squirts so much flame out the sides it would scare an attacker half to death. As you can see with .357 SIG, which has greater velocity and mass than .45 ACP, it still penetrates less. But I have a lot to learn in this area as well. But what can you expect when it comes to 9mm ballistics velocity, energy, etc.? Concealability is rarely an issue, so a smaller 9mm really has little advantage. The upward recoil maybe lesser but 9mm has a twisting recoil motion. A couple of things: 1. The 1911 can be obtained in the 9mm as well as the 45 caliber but there would be another discussion circling back which is better. The 22 TCM is just a steroid version. Your personal guarantee is meaningless. All this being said, get good with whatever you get, then, just go with. No way in hell can the 9mm possibly ever match the .45, or even the .40 S&W, at stopping people. Prvi PPU 9mm Ammunition White Box PP9124WB 124 Grain Full Metal Jacket CASE 1000 Rounds. Case: Brass. OTOH their .45 testing showed a much higher max muzzle energy with a number of rounds considerably over 600 ft lb, and had far more rounds (23 rounds) coming in over 500 ft lb. I'm removing that link since it looks like it was redirected. lb Muzzle Velocity ft/sec. Not to mention the permanent fragmentation wounds are nasty in themselves. just stick to a pistol and out to a max of 16 P.C.C. I'm Geezer who's first shot was with a 45 while in the Navy in the 70's. With half coming in under 400 ft lb. Josh thank you for this. The 1911 has a 3.3" barrel and is also small. Take all this with a pinch of salt, I'm no expert. For the elderly, the recoil of the standard 1911 45 is lesser because of its weight. Ill be anxiously waiting to hear your findings. This first is 9mm Trajectory vs .40 S&W Trajectory and the second is the Muzzle Velocity differences between the different barrel lengths when shooting the same standard ammunition. This is repeated in Winchester's Power Max cartridges. I have always heard greater mass can cause over penetration, and certainly fast and heavy bullets go through people. 9mm is the way to-go. I'll stay with my 45. Maybe alternate .45 hollow point and hot buffalo bore or extreme penetrator (best of both worlds). Its lighter than the 21, has greater capacity, and I can switch to .357 Sig in less than 30 seconds with nothing more than a barrel. shoot him with a 45 that does not over penetrate and has 80+% energy transfer or 275 lbs minimum and the fight is over. Everyone has their own confidence level and may believe what people tell them or what they read. That is simply bologne. Energy is a square of velocity. What miffed me most about this test was that the gains across barrel lengths were essentially predictable. If Im going for a fragmentation round, give me a .357 SIG from Liberty Civil defense at 2,300 FPS. Now to the .45 issue: one patient was shot in the back of the leg with a .45 hydro shock round mid way up the leg which lodged in the back of the knee. pros y contras, el 9mm. Two ProPac set-ups on the buttstock & forestock allow for two 9RD & two 20RD extra mags onboard. With a wider selection of officers being able to shoot handguns chambered in 919mm, many departments choose this caliber so they can standardize around a single firearm and loading, making logistics and supply easier. . I've seen A LOT of patients shot with numerous calibers. If the gun isn't comfortable to carry, chances are you won't every day carry, defeating the purpose. I also read several years ago about a young lad at home on his own, who had essentially been tasked with defending the home if anyone tried to break in. This trumps expansion. The 9mm Luger has a muzzle velocity of 1,120 feet-per-second (fps), while the .357 Magnum touts a muzzle velocity of 1,240 fps, despite the fact that its bullet is 34 grains heavier. Americans don't care what Europeans think. I don't know-seek advice. Had I not already had an investment in 9mm equipment and ammo I would have considered the 45. I am pretty much in agreement with the author, GET BOTH! Varmint applies to large game too.. Ha, Ha, Ha. The cookies is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Necessary". you a link to reset your password. What they neglect to take into consideration is that in order for a cartridge to meet the testing criteria, the cartridge is required to get a minimum of 12" of penetration. according to some of my police friends who's used a 9mm pistol to the bad guys, even they pump bullets the bad guy still able to run for safety, so they now replace their service firearm into M1911 cal.45. The .45 ACP (Automatic Colt Pistol) cartridge holds bullets that have a diameter of .452 inches (11.5mm) so it is slightly larger than the 9mm (.355 inch bullets). And sure, you have to keep hitting which is much easier if they are close. But I would definitely take a .45 Auto pistol over 9 x 19 handgun in most situations. The 9mm carbine is rapidly replacing the 12-gauge shotgun in many areas of law enforcement, because it holds more ammunition, makes hits more easily, and has negligible recoil. These cookies will be stored in your browser only with your consent. I would want to be shot by the round with less penetration and less muzzle energy, 45ACP, because I have a greater chance of surviving - not that my odds are good either way. I had never thought about all this before the day that an Iraq veteran, who loves hunting, told me use a BB gun to shoot rats in your backyard and carry a large magnum as a backup against a hog charging against you. It also delivers additional felt recoil and comes with slightly higher recoil velocity. 9mm vs. .45. My preference is to pull up the energy graph for nice visual reference. I was surprised because the gun twisted in my palm about 1/2" or more to my left with a sharp pinging sound that was not very comfortable to my ears. Here it is for those of us who have long since forgotten: KE = 0.5 m v2 where m = mass of object v = speed of object This page was last edited on 24 February 2023, at 12:37. If Im going with a traditional hollow point, give me .45 ACP Federal HST +P at 950 FPS. My wife was a Harville from Alabama. You must slow down. There are really two types of gun owners who really want to focus on muzzle velocity. Maoris beware. Once it is dead, it cannot be deader. Google DoubleClick IDE cookies are used to store information about how the user uses the website to present them with relevant ads and according to the user profile. However, I am getting an M&P9 2.0 for my daily carry. e.g. Uninterested folks will take it as fact and have a incorrect understanding of life past and present. I do like shooting the .45acp But a 1911 commander as much as I love it, is harder to fit in my pocket. All will work to some level of effectiveness if you can hit your target. ), .45 ACP (447 ft. I think people should think about not only the effects on an intruder but also how they will feel after they have shot someone. I'm not sure 45 is a good choice for bear country, most folks choose a large caliber magnum revolver with bonded solids for that job. Damn good question and I have wondered this myself. These cookies help provide information on metrics the number of visitors, bounce rate, traffic source, etc. The .45, it started stopping threats way back in 1911 and it still does just as well today. The 9mms lower cost and recoil make it an even more attractive solution for effective self-defense. No matter what caliber you pick, we got you covered in our Best 9mm Ammo and Best .45 ACP Ammo reviews. I've personally had the experience of using a Thompson .45 submachine gun (A1 army variant) full automatic. So, if you consider 10 rounds of 45ACP sufficient, then, definitely, the choice would be the Glock 30. You had to buy your own oversized grips. One excellent example would be the Lehigh Defense max expansion loads in either caliber. I dont know, however, this translates to a roughly 10% increase in energy being put into your target. In short, we ALL live for ever: the only question is WHERE? .45 People talk about stopping power and knock down power. Either one will do the Trick unless it happens to be a VERY RARE ATTACKER who has a super tolerance for pain & Blood loss or is on some kind of super man DRUG!! But apples to apples the 45 will always be a superior round. In fact, if one conducts these tests, one finds that there is nothing that can be observed which supports the assertion that the faster one drives non-expanding solids the deeper they penetrate.Despite all the impressive "science" deployed to reinforce the assertion that higher speed projectiles are more capable of inflicting the deep penetration and impact-effect required to reliably anchor heavy game, one finds that these assertions simply do not withstand common sense, repeatable penetration testing. Im also not worried about cost when it comes to my defense, no compromise there either. To say that the 9mm is justbas oowerful than the .44, is totslly nonsense. And that's a good thing!! It gives perspective from both sides. I cant say how other .40 S&W feel/shoot, but any of my friends that have shot the 96 love its accuracy and low recoil. a G43 to an AR15 fight. (All listings are fps). You never know what you can walk into or what might bust in your door. Fortunate enough to equip your firearm with a suppressor? The more we all know, the better organized and stronger the shooting and hunting community will be. Let me start out by saying that the biggest mistake that most people make is taking a black-and-white stance on the .45 ACP and 9mm. Your 45 and your 9mm will both go clear through the walls in your house. I gather he was just Firing the pistol into an effective area. It isn't a miracle round. Enjoy your retirement. 24 is the SAAMI (industry) standard despite the fact that most .223 ammo is probably fired from an 18 AR-15 barrel. You sound highly inexperienced. You end up with the same energy as a .223/5.56 but with less risk of over penetration , which is great for a situation like home defense when you cant always know whats on the other side of the wall. I own, shoot and train with few firearms and calibres, including the Glock's 19, 26 and 30S. I only currently own 9 mm handguns. Thats why my husband is getting a Sig Sauer .45 ACP for Christmas. 3. If you look up the Buckeye Firearms Association article comparing calibers, 9mm fails to incapacitate 13% of the time while .45 ACP fails to incapacitate 14%. Well use another sports analogy to make this point: think of a linebacker traveling at 6 mph, which is a typical jogging speed. Weve really missed you since 2016!). Kind of like when they took away the man stoppin 308 cal m14 and gave them a stinking 223 varmint round to fight a war with in nam. Now a .44 magnum round to the arm or leg? I had one patient shot 11 times with what looked like a .380 or 9mm, hard to tell on xray. If you're really intent on a firearmgo bigger. The domestic manufacture of war material was not remotely able to resupply the entire UK armed forces. Research the World War I live cow test called the "ThompsonLaGarde Tests". Youll do well to pick heavier bullet weights that convey a, The Latin in the 9mms full name is short for. ), , and 10mm (650 ft. Whats right for me is probably a double stack micro 380 (10+ rounds) and a 1.5 stack sub compact 40 S&W (10+ rounds), but they havent invented good enough ones yet so.. A 7" barrel with a 7" suppressor would still give an overall length of 14 inches, so going up to 10" for a little extra velocity would put you at just about 17" with a suppressor, which is still going to handle better than a 16" barrel, along with the benefits of being suppressed. 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