The fact that the cartridge used .411 bullets was another strike against it, since thats a unique size that requires custom production bullets unlike the extremely common .284, .308, and .458 bullets that are used by so many other popular cartridges. Bullet Works | Gunblast.Com |
As chronicled in his book African Game Trails(p29), Roosevelt and his son Kermit brought a total of 3 Winchester Model 1895 rifles with them to Africa: one in .405 Winchester for each of them and a third one in .30-03 Springfield for Kermit. The information stays somewhat isolated, unless we cognitively bring about those comparisons.. Few ever believe the .308 Winchester cartridge is less than powerful. I'm not trying to be beligerant in any way, I am simply asking you guys to show me compared ballistics. I love the wood on this gun. I can't find anything that comes terribly close to that. Our price: $59.99. 9.3 vs 405 Win [Re: Metalguy] # 148743 - 24/12/09 11:06 AM : Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply I run 600 rounds between cleanings . Fortunately, the .405 lends itself well to reloading and the necessary components are widely available. However, what really caught the eye of hunters at the time was the fact that the rifle was also available in the brand new .30 US Army (aka .30-40 Krag) cartridge. Copyright 2023 National Rifle Association, Women On Target Instructional Shooting Clinics, Volunteer At The Great American Outdoor Show, Marion P. Hammer Women Of Distinction Award, Women's Wildlife Management / Conservation Scholarship, National Youth Shooting Sports Cooperative Program, Remington Model 700 American Hunter Rifle Project, .450 Nitro Express vs. .470 Nitro Express, .358 Winchester vs. .350 Remington Magnum, .25-06 Remington vs. .257 Weatherby Magnum, Head to Head: .308 Winchester vs. .338 Federal, Head to Head: .308 Winchester vs. 7mm-08 Remington, Head to Head: .500 Jeffery vs. .505 Gibbs, Head to Head: .22-250 Remington vs. .204 Ruger, Head to Head: .303 British vs. 8x57 Mauser, Fiocchi USA Appoints David Blenker As New CEO After Anthony Acitellis Retirement | An NRA Shooting Sports Journal, Behind the Bullet: .17 HMR | An Official Journal Of The NRA, 7 Great Lightweight Hunting Rifles | An Official Journal Of The NRA, Product Preview: 7th Edition Ammo Encyclopedia | An Official Journal Of The NRA, New for 2023: Savage Arms Impulse Driven Hunter, First Look: ZeroTech Thrive HD Binoculars | An Official Journal Of The NRA, Launching 2023: KelTec R50 Rifle | NRA Family, New For 2023: Glock 47 MOS | An Official Journal Of The NRA, 11 New Ammo Options For 2023 | An Official Journal Of The NRA, #SundayGunday: Savage Arms 110 PCS | An Official Journal Of The NRA, #SundayGunday: Davidson's Winchester Model 1895 Texas Ranger's Edition | An Official Journal Of The NRA, #SundayGunday: Colt King Cobra Target .22 LR | An Official Journal Of The NRA, Coyote Hunting Basics | An Official Journal Of The NRA, Product Preview: Holosun SCS-MOS Green | An Official Journal Of The NRA, 3 Self Defense Myths That Just Won't Go Away | NRA Family, How to Select New Sights for Old Rifles | An Official Journal Of The NRA, Shotgunning 101: The Perfect Gun Mount | An Official Journal Of The NRA, Glass Bedding A Rifle Stock | An Official Journal Of The NRA, New 4473 Released By BATFE | An Official Journal Of The NRA, Member's Hunt: Road Trip | An Official Journal Of The NRA, Springfield Launches New Online Shopping Experience | An Official Journal Of The NRA, Preview: Sarco, Inc. 2nd Amendment Pint Glass | An Official Journal Of The NRA, Fiocchi: Ammunition With Italian Flair | An Official Journal Of The NRA, Glocks MOS pistol/optic mounting interface, Top 4 Ways to Carry a Binocular | NRA Family, New for 2023: Burris Veracity PH Hunting Rifle Scope | An Official Journal Of The NRA, Preview: Mission First Tactical 24-oz. 444 marlin and 45-90 are the only other ones that id call even remotely close to "common", but the 45-70 still blows them out of the water in terms of availability, both rifles and ammo. At the same time, it was also excellent for use on just about every species of African plains game. I had taken it with me to compete in a side match at our local CAS shoot Saturday. The rifle didnt like the starting load at all, and its not included in the accompanying accuracy chart. 
. The Winchester did admirably with lions, giraffes, elands, and smaller game, and, as will be seen, with hippos. Written By John B. I'll give you the extra 100 fps even though all factory loads are at 2200 fps just like the 444 Marlin's 2200 fps. Richard Lees excellent book MODERN RELOADING, 2nd Edition gives the following information on heavy bullet loads.pgs..431/432. So whats new. That required restricting both powder capacity and bullet weight. At the time it was the most powerful lever-action cartridge made. With an Accu-Fit stock and left hand adjustable bolt, this rifle is a perfect choice for anyone! The .405 WCF. Click here to learn more about Long Range rifles >. I always find it enjoyable to work with a rifle that has a storied history, and the Winchester 1895 certainly has one. Kimber's Hunter Pro Desolve Blak takes the firm's more affordable mountain rifle to new heights. To get started, click the link below to visit mymagnow.com and learn how to access your digital magazine. Barnes X bullet in 200 grains might be up to it. Its dovetailed into the barrel but does not sit flush. $405.67. Looking at this product line, youll be inclined to give the nod to the .444 Marlin, especially coupled with the Hornady Superformance load of the 265-grain InterLock at 2400 fps. The results were impressive; the 300-grain soft point at some 2,200 fps made the jug come apart nicely. Close to the great 30-06, and with heavy weight bullets will take just about any large game animal in the Americas. Still undecided on the rifle. The .405 Win. Over the course of their expedition, the two men took over 500 animals, to include a number of lion, elephant, rhino, and buffalo in addition to hundreds of antelope. Ammo companies and reloading books had gotten comfortable giving out 1800 to 2100 fps loads. However, while Roosevelt was very pleased overall with the performance of the the .405 Winchester in Africa, and did take several species of thick skinned game like hippo and rhino with it, he also noted some of the limitations of the cartridge as well (p141): The Winchester and the Springfield were the weapons one of which I always carried in my own hand, and for any ordinary game I much preferred them to any other rifles. 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Because most human minds like to put information into little boxes and once stored doesnt like to run automatic comparisons of information. Make sure you subscribe to The Big Game Hunting Podcast and follow The Big Game Hunting Blog on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, andYouTube. While he may have indeed used those terms to describe the cartridge at some point, he did not do so in African Game Trails. But by far the best when you combine both velocity and accuracy, and that is H4198. When handloaded, the .444 Marlin could easily reach 2100 fps with 300 grains bullets, in some ways reminiscent of the grand old .405 Winchester (which shot a 300 grain bullet at 2200 fps). Left to Right: .32 Winchester Special, .30-30 Win., .38-55, .375 Winchester, 444 Marlin, .45-70 Govt. One so called knowledgeable person actually didnt know the big bore Winchester 94 was rated for much higher pressure than the Marlin 336 or the standard Winchester 94. The other very fine bullet and my second choice is the Hornady soft nose 265 grainer. Heavier bullets are available; they can run as heavy as 335 grains, though the 265- and 280-grain remain the most popular. During the spring conservation order, you can hunt with outfitters from Arkansas to Saskatchewan. Best Winchester. The front sight boasts a gold bead. Mag. Nice article John and thank you for your service. However, I found that by placing the gold bead of the front sight so it sat just atop the fine portion of the notch, I could get an okay sight picture. The old Trapdoor rifles are restricted to a lower pressure level than are the modern, strongly-built lever guns like the Marlin Model 1895 and Winchester Model 1886; though the case may be thin, it can generate impressive numbers in a modern gun. The 458 with 300 gr Barnes X-Bullets will do 2400 fps from a 14 inch barrel with a load that is safe. But it is no 405. The heaviest variant of the .444 Marlin Ammo is loaded with 300-grain, which can travel at the velocity of 2,000 feet per second while producing an energy level of 2,665 ft.lbf. The nearly straight-walled .444 Marlin case requires a three-die set for reloading just as with a traditional sixgun cartridge case. .260 Diameter The .260" bullets are most often used with the 6.5 x 70R cartridge. I, for one, am glad to see it back. Part of the reason is its oddball .411 bullet diameter. This is still one of the most powerful rimmed cartridges designed specifically for lever-action rifles. First, they were cool. I have an 1895 in 30-06 that is a very good rifle, accurate with factory loads and carries well for a day in the woods. To put this in context, its considerably more energy than most 300-grain .45-70 loads (around 2,200 ft.-lbs. The current Model 1895 is offered in two chamberings: .30-06 and .405 Win. Jun 28, 2014. The .45-70 uses a straight-walled, rimmed case measuring 2.105 inches, and maintains an overall length of 2.550 inches. But like 45 caliber bullets, 44s (.430) pack a lot of weight in short stubby bullets Lees load for the 300 is 42.5 grains of H4198 giving almost 2100 fps at over 40,000
From the 16" barrel of the author's Bushmaster AR, factory .450 Bushmaster loads produced between 2,455 and 2,686 ft.-lbs. Like the .44-40 WCF and .45 Colt, the .45-70 Government has been with us since 1873, and shows no sign of fading anytime soon; its roots in the American shooting industry run deep, and Id bet the affection for the design will extend another century. Today's Model 1895. of muzzle energy. Marlin added their own .444 Marlin straight wall chambering to the 1895 action, calling it the Marlin 444. . I had put some red dye in my jug, and at some 92 yards I hit it with the second shot. Winchester sees it much the same way. And since I used mostly cast bullets I never tested the various jacketed 240s in the Marlin, because it sounded so logical. ), although, of course, factory loads for the Government are purposely held low because of all the old rifles out there. Rossi assuming that velocity can be achieved with the 444 and keep the gun together, you need to look at a point somewhere beyond the muzzle to see how bullet shape effects down range trajectoy. of energy respectively. 405 Win, 300 grain jacketed load out of a 24" 1895 Winchester at 2400 fps. Until the advent of the .444 Marlin it was the most powerful cartridge ever chambered in a lever-action rifle. Semi-automatic and striker-fired, the P320-XTEN is extremely accurate, easy to shoot even with powerful 10mm loads and holds 15-plus-one rounds. 1 action, which allows the round to be loaded much hotter and with heavier bullets than would be safe even in a modern-built 1895. The first thing that probably comes to mind for most hunters familiar with the .405 Winchester is President Theodore Roosevelt and his famous use of the cartridge during his 1909 African Safari. 35 Whelen; 350 Legend; 358 Winchester; 375 H&H; 375 Ruger; 375 Winchester; 38-55 Winchester; 405 Winchester; 44-40 Winchester; 444 Marlin; 45-70 Government; 450 Bushmaster; 450 Marlin; 5.45x39mm; 5.56 mm NATO; 5.7 x 28 mm; 50 BMG; . Randy's Custom Rifles Chambering List: If you do not see a caliber you want, contact us for availability. That translates to 3,225 ft.-lbs. Winchester 1886. While the current rifle is also available in .30-06, I think for most people the .405 Win., which made its debut in 1904, will be the more interesting chambering. For that reason, Ruger produced their ubiquitous Number 1 Tropical rifle in .405 Winchester for a time and Winchester has offered a couple of limited commemorative production runs of Model 95 rifles made by Miroku over the years as well. Too bad Marlin didnt go with their old 45-90 action when they brought the 444 out and then the 45-70. I think the sectional density issues have been solved. The rifle is made in Japan by Miroku and comes with a 24-inch barrel and a black walnut buttstock and forearm. The recovered bullet was around 55 caliber and 191 grains. Read on for his take on this Thai-inspired fusion dish. . But speaking of wild boar, Boddington said with the standard 300-grain load its lights out on hogs, and it certainly has enough energy to tackle the biggest North American game. Though Roosevelt did not take every single animal with the .405 Winchester, he used it often enough to thoroughly evaluate the effectiveness of the cartridge on a wide variety of game. Could the .405 fit in here? just looking for feedback on some quality rifles for around $550 in .338 win mag and .444 marlin. Ammunition: Remington 405 grain Soft Point bullet. Bullet weight: 405 grains. Don't get hung up on the old garbage that everyone else in the past has done by thinking the 444 is somehow merely a 100 yard cartridge. If you want a 338 I would go with the Howa, Weatherby Vanguard, or Savage. Which were light even for the Marlin action rated at 40,000+ cup. Subscriber Services. Considering an 1895 Winchester in .405 anyone have any thoughts on the accuracy, recoil, and successes in the field with the rifle and cartridge? However, this was a special high velocity loading using a very light bullet which gave poor penetration in big heavy boned animals due to its poor sectional density. Our experience had convinced us that both the Winchester .405 and the Springfield .300 [.30-06] would do good work with elephants; although I kept to my belief that, for such very heavy game, my Holland .500/450 was an even better weapon, he wrote in African Game Trails. Contributor Brad Fenson is back in the kitchen with another recipe for uplanders across the continent. (it slugged at .414 groove) I recently sold the CZ, (age is catching up to me) but in the round-about trade, wound up with a miroku 95. The 300 grain Hornady Interlock and Barnes TSX bullets are particularly high quality choices for reloading. Copyright 2023 National Rifle Association, Women On Target Instructional Shooting Clinics, Volunteer At The Great American Outdoor Show, Marion P. Hammer Women Of Distinction Award, Women's Wildlife Management / Conservation Scholarship, National Youth Shooting Sports Cooperative Program, Remington Model 700 American Hunter Rifle Project, Gov. you save 27%. What's more, having shot both rifles, I can testify that the .444 Marlin delivers this level of ballistics from a stock design that is far more comfortable . Its interesting to see how the accuracy improved as velocity went up, so this gun seems to like em on the warm side. Wood-to-metal fit is proud all the way around, but at least its consistent. H-335 comes in second and they both are hard to beat. One hundred yards aint happening with my eyes and sights like these, at least not for a realistic assessment of the rifles accuracy potential. Now, to find reload data ! So along come the Winchester BB action rated at 50,000 cup. In my experimenting so far, .303 takes several shots to fire-form and the rim thickness is too much. 1 Single-Shot Rifle: Tips to Improve Its Accuracy, Enfield No. However, many hunters and shooters in the USA still have a certain nostalgia for the cartridge. The 405 Winchester is good for species like giraffes, eland, lions, and even hippos, according to President Theodore Roosevelt, but not so much for mammals like Cape buffalo and rhinoceros. They can take that '06 and convert it to a .411 Hawk. Tim LeGendre of. I have taken it on a couple of hunts but never been able to close the deal on a critter with it yetsomething I need to reconcile. Our price: $36.99. While the .45-70 Government may get the glory, Marlin's .444 is still a mighty fine cartridge. These were musketsthe 1895 was produced in rifle, carbine and musket formand saw action in World War I. While thats a lot of energy, it doesnt stack up as well in terms of trajectory. The .405, like the .444 Marlin, was made for use in lever action rifles. Cartridges load easily into the straight-stack internal magazine, snapping home with a satisfying snick. Feeding was flawless. 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Both are suitable for nearly any big-game animal, save the African dangerous heavyweights, and both have fervent, passionate followers. A first-shot hit scored three times the lasered range; second shot hit yielded two times the range and third shot hit was one times the range. Remington also tried to capitalize on the popularity of the .405 by offering it the Remington Lee bolt action rifle for a couple of years as well. 307 Winchester; 308 Marlin Express; 308 Winchester (7.62 x 51 mm) 32 Winchester Special . For one thing, the Winchester 1895 had a reputation for punishing recoil when equipped with the standard curved rifle butt plate. That total included a run of nearly 300,000 guns in 7.62 Russian, a contract job for the czars. The .45-70 Government is definitely the older of the two, having been released in 1873 in the famous Trapdoor Springfield. As befits a lever action of its era, there are no sling swivel studs. I did shoot a couple 100-yard groups just for fun, and they came in around 2.5 inchesgenerally in line with what I got at 50 yards. With an MSRP of $1,459 and an approximate street price of $1,190. 405 win; 416 rem mag; 416 rigby; 416 ruger; 416 wby mag; 44 mag; 44-40 win; 444 marlin; 45-70 government; 450 bushmaster; 450 marlin; 450 rigby; 450/.400 nitro express 3" 455 webley; . If you zero at 100 yards, the .405 is dropping 8.3 inches at 200 yards and 30.2 inches at 300 yardswith 1,727 ft.-lbs. Sharpe wrote that it was one of the cleanest-burning powders in the DuPont line, flexible enough to handle cartridges from the .22 Hi-Power up to the .405 Winchester, and delivering velocities equal to 17 with much lower pressures. Even with todays new generation of premium bullets in most calibers, the Noslers still do the job and do it better than most. i also looked at a ruger .338 win mag. T. Riekers Sporting Agency & Gun Works | Steve's
Bryce M. Towsley This cartridge has the potential to be the best deer hunting ammo . Which were light even for the Marlin action rated at 40,000+ cup. The case can also be handloaded to impressive figures in a suitable rifle, and there are some excellent bullets like the Swift A-Frame which will further enhance the performance of this old design, yet the classic cast-lead bullets at low velocities are still fun to shoot. Besides I have a number of same cartridge type rounds loaded at different pressures for a number of rifles and handguns.. The .405 Winchester (also known as the .405 WCF) is a centerfire rifle cartridge introduced in 1904 for the Winchester 1895 lever-action rifle. leverguns. 22-250 Loader Pack (100ct. Ironically, while .405 is a bigger number than .404, the Jeffery takes a .423-inch bullet. of energy and well under 50,000 cup they cringe. The original Winchester factory load consisted of a 300gr. If we can still build and sell a gun designed over 100 years ago, then were doing something right.. Snow. And over the last few years as I have written of the much higher ballistics of the Winchester 444, I have run into the critics with all the old jargon. Well maybe you could help me out and direct me to some tested data that shows the 300 gr bullet doing 2200 out of the 444. It was designed by the legendary gun designer, John Moses Browning. Truth be told, most African Professional Hunters would agree with his assessment of the cartridge today: its great for hunting many animals, but there are many better choices for thick-skinned dangerous game than the .405 Winchester. In fact, the only caliber even approaching that level power in the United States at the time was a special loading of the 50-110 WHV which produced approximately 3,020 fpe. Scarce "Timber Carbine" with 18" ported barrel and pistol grip stock. I didnt have any 225 grain 44s to run tests on, so I jumped to 240 grainers. Heck, the .405 Winchester was so popular that Kynoch produced factory ammunition for the cartridge for several years. The new Sako Finnlight II sports an innovative stock and Cerakote metal paired with the terrific 85 action. Few companies get to claim they are still building the same guns that brought them to the table. "Having tried a variety of bullets in various calibers over my 30 year hunting career, I grew dissatisfied with the performance of the generic brands mainly because of their excessively stiff construction. Or how about a 330 grain cast bullet over 55 grains of H-335 giving 2262 fps and 3750 ft.lbs. The .405 Winchester was powerful enough for use on any North American big game from whitetail deer all the way up to moose and grizzly bear. The .444 Marlin Ammo has an extremely long effective range for hunting medium to large-sized games. Thanks for the information on the .405 1895. Load the modern Miroku made Winchester 1895 .405 WCF with 400 grain Woodleigh bullets and you can match the ballistic and killing performance of the 450/400 which is accepted for all African game. In all, according to R.L. 375 Ruger, 375 H&H, 348 Winchester, 405 Winchester, 338 Winchester, and 458 Winchester, there are tons of higher recoil options. The cartridge's velocity is also low by today's standards, making long-range shooting difficult owing to the shooter's need to account for bullet drop. This means you have the option to read your magazine on most popular phones and tablets. Plus the powder is not very accessible where I live so I could never test/check his load.. At 50 yards offhand I could keep all of my shots in a volleyball with a relatively rapid rate of fire. It is a slightly tapered case going from .470" at the base to .453" at the case mouth, while the 1.285" long .44 Magnum is a straight case of .456" diameter. The cartridge and the rifle enjoyed moderate success here in the States as a bear and elk rifle. Today the .444 has a small but staunch following among lever action big bore enthusiasts. Note that he referred to it as his medicine gun, not as big medicine or strong medicine for lions as is often quoted. 444 Marlin Ammo Yes, its a liability-driven decision. yeah i will be reloading both rounds. 44-40 win; 444 marlin; 45-70 government; 450 bushmaster; 450 marlin; 450-400 nitro express; 458 lott; 458 win mag; 460 wby mag; 470 nitro express; 12.17x44 rf . 444 Marlin's use on big game is rated for optimum game up to elk, moose, grizz, brown bear, leopard and lion. I can say from experience that the .405 is an excellent deer, hog rifle and is certainly capable of taking the largest big game animals in North America when used within its limitations. . I don't agree that the 405 is any less of a cartridge that the 444 or 45/70. psi.. with (2082 fps) 2888 ft. lbs. Mag..243 Winchester vs. 6mm Remington7x57mm Mauser vs. 7mm-08 Remington.25-06 Remington vs. .257 Weatherby Magnum.338 Winchester vs. .375 H&H Magnum.30-30 Winchester vs. .35 Remington.257 Roberts vs. .250-3000 Savage.270 Winchester vs. .280 Remington.35 Whelen vs. 9.3x62mm Mauser.416 Rigby vs. .416 Remington Magnum.308 Winchester vs. .30-06 Springfield.22 Nosler vs. .224 Valkyrie.300 Win. It is a tapered round barrel, and with the polishing it is difficult to mate exactly, so there is a slight gap between the barrel and the front sight to ensure there is no contact with the sight and the front barrel, he said. From there, youve got the various powerful .416s, which use .416-inch bullets as their designation suggests. .444 marlin fits perfect and is already a straight wall case, measuring roughly 2 1/4". Grizzly Cartridges | Cast
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