They love that place. North Sydney Bears. Hes a doctor of demographics. North Sydney chose to join the temporary Presidents Cup competition which involved teams from country New South Wales and the Ron Massey Cup. Matt has interviewed just about everyone in Australian sport, and has a massive Rolodex of Australian sports folk. A valid active email address and Australian mobile phone number are required for account set up. The North Sydney Bears would be back and there would be, give us your best Rabbits Warren, deadset jubilation. Theres still people holding a candle for the Newtown Jets, though not enough that the Jets arent destined to forever be a reserve grade feeder out of Henson Park. That's lotta eyeballs. Anywhere from the Harbour Bridge - take in the Central Coast - that would be such a powerful area and if they could come to some sense you could encapsulate Brookvale Oval, North Sydney Oval and Gosford and have a wonderful, strong club.. Newcastle, and Andrew Johns, then 19, beat us at home. Wouldn't be surprised if Uncle Nick has seen the writing on the wall for Manly as a business and is ready to pick off carcass of the Sea Eagles Roosters/Norths absorb Manly, become the Northern Roosters and encompass the eastern and northern beaches all the way to Gosford. [20], On 28 August 1999, Norths played their final game as a first grade side against the North Queensland Cowboys in Townsville. However, independent research shows the club still has 220,000 avid followers, a huge supporter . promote your clubs sponsors and connect Norths won the game 28-18.[21]. No cancellations during the first 12 months. We are super excited to have a player of Todd Carneys calibre join the mighty North Sydney Bears". New South Wales Origin coach Brad Fittler has suggested the Sea Eagles and Bears combine with the Central Coast region to form a "behemoth" club stretching north from the CBD all the way to Gosford and beyond. And if there were a Bears team to call their own, local people would invest in the Bears, consume the Bears, love the Bears. But Fittler believes the perfect destination is at their feet, if Manly agree. Not sure if you missed it Freddy but the Bears already did merge with Manly. Thats a nudge over 5 per cent of the population. Matt Cleary will receive 80% of all funds contributed. the fun and become a member of the community, You can share sports stories, experiences, match reports, The following year North Sydney came 2nd in the regular season, but were defeated 47-7 by St George, and then lost to South Sydney 14-9 the following week.[8][9][10]. The Dragons have 260,000 (not counting the Illawarra). [15], The following year saw two separate national rugby league championships, and confirmation of the club's intention to move north to New South Wales' Central Coast. Perry went on to say "You need 12 and 12, so 24 key markets, and stricter criteria about those clubs around their funding model which means all of the 24 may not fit the top tier criteria, it may only be 16-18 franchises that make the cut, their catchment areas, their population, and their commercial growth, because currently I believe a lot of clubs havent been accountable as much as they should have. Adding a team in Sydney would appear to fly in the face of the theres too many teams in Sydney argument. But they never won that premiership, they strategically blundered with Super League, and they fizzled into insolvency, enduring the humiliation of what former president David Hill described as the sacrilegious merger with Manly before the expulsion of the Bears by the Forces of Darkness. Thats a lotta eyeballs. They have also been affiliated with the New Zealand Warriors, the South Sydney Rabbitohs and the Melbourne Storm in the past.[23]. But they could be a much bigger thing. Renewals occur unless cancelled in accordance with the full Terms and Conditions. The 1990s was a decade of hope for the North Sydney Bears and while it ultimately ended in tears they almost claimed rugby league's ultimate glory along the way. It was more a fishing exercises by suits in high places, the "paper" leaked to select media to disseminate in the court of public opinion. [16], In the 1997 season North Sydney again made the preliminary final against Newcastle at the Sydney Football Stadium. Relocating rugby league clubs disenchants new fans and disenfranchises existing ones. This decision comes on the back of that. But they would. If thats the marker, then the ARLC suited bean-counters should do this. The Dragons have 260,000 (not counting the Illawarra). And so it was bye-bye Bears to purgatory. Cronulla has 220,000. Hes presented Powerpoint shows to many suits detailing the findings of his years of study into Sydney peoples sports-consuming habits. And was a year late, thats all. But it should still be done. Prices after the introductory pricing period may be varied in accordance with the full Terms and Conditions. [26] On 19 September, it was announced that Ben Gardiner was leaving as coach of the club after two and a half years in charge.[27]. And watch the people stream across Miller Street and into Bear Park, and fill it full to burst, and chant like Souths fans did. West Australian desire. This is one of those things that wont happen but I do wonder what the future holds for Manly. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Speaking to Sporting News Australia, Manly tragic Peter Zorba Peters proudly rubbished Fittlers recommendation with a warning for the Bears. Relocation disenchants and disenfranchise existing fans, while new ones get a sort of half-arsed mob from somewhere else. [6], The team became known as the North Sydney Bears during the 1950s after accepting a sponsorship from the nearby Big Bear supermarket at Neutral Bay. Missed out. The club was formed at the North Sydney School of Arts in Mount Street on 7 February 1908. But moot it they did, these people in suits, because television told them. During that time, North Sydney produced arguably the greatest winger the game has ever seen in Ken Irvine. Perry suggested that the NRL should look at creating a promotion/relegation system similar to other sports around the world. Please call us on 1800 070 535 and well help resolve the issue or try again later. Heart and soul of the North Sydney Bears Greg Florimo has weighed in on the proposal to re-merge Manly and the Bears. Former North Sydney internationals Greg Florimo and David Fairleigh play a prominent role in the club's push to join the NRL. [41][42], Bears fan Alan McLoughlin, a Central Coast resident, set up a Facebook petition to bring the Bears to Gosford. [35], North Sydney would go on to lose both finals matches against South Sydney and Newtown. Fish where the fish are, is something my old man would say and he didnt even like fishing. So bring em back, baby, and fill Percys Bar. Prominent rugby league personalities who have publicly backed the club include Phil Gould, Andrew Johns and Peter Sterling while support has also come from as high up as Federal Treasurer and North Sydney MP Joe Hockey. Policy played out in the court of public opinion; its how we roll in the twenties. If the NRL wants to expand it should look inside itself: And bring back the North Sydney Bears. And the dominant partner eventually killed and ate their Siamese twin, and took the license for themselves, for they are nothing if not their own people. Singleton then spoke about the Gold Coast Titans and how their bid beat Singleton's initial bid for a Central Coast team in 2006 saying They had no money and no stadium, and we did have a stadium built for North Sydney. But theyd be into, the Northern Sydney Bear people, all six hundred thousand of em, or whatever percentage the NRL could plane off and declare allegiance, and consume the club and love it one way or many. Big question would be do you brand the new merged club as one, both or neither of the two co-owners? The North Sydney Bears are reportedly attempting to organise a consortium that will make a bid to purchase the NRL license off the Manly Sea Eagles. Sheesh Teddy you want to move the Roosters to the "Eastern Seabed".The gimps have to breath now and again mate.Bloody hard to knock on or flick pass 100 fathoms below the surface. The proposed team would play 11 games in Gosford and one game at North Sydney Oval (obviously against Manly as part of a heritage or rivalry round). Its why people follow footy teams. I was eight, Norths were first. [19], By the start of the 1999 NRL season the future looked bright with plans for the move north well underway, but one unfortunate and apparently non-negotiable outcome of the Super League war's peace deal was a criterion designed to reduce the number of teams in the NRL to fourteen. Since the Northern Eagles folded at the end of 2002, Manly and North Sydney have gone their separate ways. Its the same in Canberra as the Shire as Townsville TNorth Queensland. "Never going to happen. In 2009, North Sydney lost to Balmain Tigers in extra time to miss out on the Grand Final 1918. NRL support. The loss was evidently too much for me, and I began to cry. It was a wet, Autumnal day in May 1994. Prices after the first 12 months may be varied as per full Terms and Conditions. cost) every 4 weeks unless cancelled as per full Terms and Conditions. The loss was evidently too much for me, and I began to cry. Hes in demand by NRL clubs. [25], In the 2017 season, Norths finished 6th on the ladder and qualified for the finals. Singleton said We had the players and the lifestyle on the Central Coast once you get people up there they go: wow, how goods this. Gold Coast? 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They knew: tribalism is good. But they are separate, distinct entities. The Northern Eagles represented Manly. Even more transparent, in a back-arsed sort of way. Heart and soul of the North Sydney Bears Greg Florimo has weighed in on the proposal to re-merge Manly and the Bears. Full Digital Access to be billed $1 for the first 28 days. And relocating an entity, be they Bears, Dragons, Sharks, Tigers, Roosters, whoever, well, knowing fans as I do, and being one of them, youd just as soon they kill your team as see it move away. Souths: 390,000. Manly Sea Eagles and North Sydney Bears must merge into a 'behemoth' club, says Brad Fittler, Cameron Smith reveals the 'difficulty' of not having a consistent halfback for the 2018 season. See www.dailytelegraph.com.au/subscriptionterms for full details. How long does it take for my home delivery to start? In 1964, the club moved to new premises, its current location, in Abbott Street, Cammeray. With the score 12-8 in favour of Newcastle with less than 10 minutes to play Jason Taylor set up Michael Buettner for a try which made the score 12-12. Subscription automatically renews at least 24 hours before the end of the current billing period. Ill do a Russell Crowe and bring them back Though daddy-money would be nice, Dickson says that should the Bears be green-lit for the 18th licence, the money is good. This Bowling Club was transformed and re-branded as The Greens North Sydney in November 2014. Payment will be charged to your Google Account. Its like when politicians are parachuted into safe seats. North Sydney was in a partnership with South Sydney serving as Souths' reserve grade side from 2007 until the agreement ended in 2018. A WA-Bears joint venture will be judged very much on their business model rather than the emotion around the Bears. Newcastle, and Andrew Johns, then 19, beat us at home. And he said the NRL told these guys not to use the media to play things out. Maybe not instant. Maybe not jubilation. cost) every 4 weeks unless cancelled as per full Terms and Conditions. Had another chat with a bloke involved in the Bears ill-fated bid for the Gold Coast licence. Allow up to 5 days for home delivery to commence. Nobody would win, not even TV. At the end of the 2019 Canterbury Cup NSW regular season, Norths finished third on the table and qualified for the finals. Taylor ended up missing the goal. We used to cry when the Bears won a game! Guttural laughter from my uncles. The voice of TRUE North Sydney Bears Supporters. Too right. NRL Round 1 Talking Points - early edition: Whos confident? 25-12 against Parramatta and 23-2 the following week against Canterbury. Thats a nudge over five per cent of the population. But like said abominable Northern Eagles, they would be horrible. If Brookie is not up to NRL standard, why does the NRL allow them to play there? And today there's 600,000 people from Kirribilli to Mt Colah who dont have a rugby league team. Hard-nosed? Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox! The club initially struggled to obtain access to North Sydney Oval, but council obstruction was removed and the Shoremen played their first real home game in 1910. They last won a premiership in 1993, defeating Newcastle in the grand final 5-4. Then it was the Western Bears. And the Bears didnt get a licence when using the press is what they shouldve done along with all the other weapons in their armoury to shift public opinion to the Bears. [4] Many good players such as Andy Morton, Jimmy Devereaux and Sid Deane were lost to English clubs in the years after making the semi-finals in the season of 1908. In 2019 the Australian Rugby League Commission cobbled together a white paper of sorts, a plan to prop up under-performing Sydney NRL clubs with revenue that would apparently flow from broadcasters once the club had relocated to a new place where people watch telly. Full Digital Access + Weekend Paper Delivery $8 billed every 4 weeks for the first 12 weeks, then $36 billed every 4 weeks. But this: Throw in the Central Coast and the Bears would have the biggest junior catchment of any Sydney team including the Dragons and Steelers. After being behind on the scoreboard 12-0, Norths fought their way back into the match to level the scores at 14-14. Relocating rugby league clubs disenchants new fans and disenfranchises existing ones. Fans can also support a team though theyve never set foot in their zone. Its more than watch footy in the catchments serving Roosters, Rabbitohs, Dragons, Sharks, Sea Eagles and Bulldogs. Lost the plot. Supporters of grass roots Rugby League. Editor Matt Cleary is an award-winning sports writer, contributor to The Guardian, Inside Sport, Big League and Inside Rugby, among several dozen other journals. Norths went on to make the finals again in 1953 and 1954, losing to Souths and St. George respectively. People follow footy teams largely because the team represents them, their patch, their people. Get five per cent of Greater Northern Sydney to a North Sydney Bears game and thats 50,000 citizens. You must log in or register to reply here. So bring em back, baby, and fill Percys Bar. The Bears have also been the only team to have participated in every season of reserve grade since the competition's inception in 1908. And all those aforementioned Sydney fisheries have a team, while a one million-strong chunk of northern Sydney and its near north does not. And relocating an entity, be they Bears, Dragons, Sharks, Tigers, Roosters, whoever, well, knowing fans as I do, and being one of them, youd just as soon they kill your team as see it move away. Earlier in the week, The Australian's. Peter Vlandys is often asked when the NRL will bring back the Bears. Souths: 390,000. And they could again. Youve got the big business of North Sydney, youve got the Peninsula, then youve got the people of the Central Coast, the numbers, it would be nearly a behemoth of a club if it had the right administration and the right people behind it. Like Illawarra got the socks in their merge and the Magpies got Campbelltown occasionally, the Bears got shafted in the merge. However! But once your delivery is activated, youll get the next edition, hot off the press. At the end of the day, if they dont like the decision the Bears make, they can take it up with us. The Sydney Roosters revealed that they would be fielding their own team in the NSW Cup for 2023 and would still provide some contracted players to North Sydney as part of the agreement. Their subsequent, rapid demise was not organic, and hundreds of thousands of Bears people are still out there, wandering. In the 2022 NSW Cup season, North Sydney finished third on the table and qualified for the finals. As Nick Politis said in the piece in The Tele Bears fans didnt go to Manly and they didnt cross the bridge and come to the Roosters. Halfway through the season, the Eagles even abandoned playing games at Gosford, due to a sharp decline in attendances. Manly's licence is redistributed to a WA or Bris2 franchise. On October 27, 2021, the Bears revealed their intention to return to the NRL, coinciding with a new logo. Given the nrl bears are gone and never coming back surely they have the most to gain? Home Delivery is not available in all areas. 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