Evernote. However, what happened to Jones once he left Wandsworth jail in December 1941, aged 35, remains a mystery. Vote. Business class plane passenger refuses to give up his seat so a man could sit next to his wife on her birthday - selfish or fair enough? But there was one big problem with it Millionaire loses latest court battle over his illegal 'man cave', High Court judges agree that it was right to jail Graham Wildin, 70, for building a huge sports complex in his back garden without planning permission, BBC axe show after 22 years leaving presenter 'very sad', The programme X-Ray, which sought justice for consumers, was first aired in 2001, Holly Willoughby and Phillip Schofield left stunned after Welsh choir opens This Morning, To celebrate St David's Day ITV1's This Morning opened with a Welsh choir performing live at Pembrey Country Park much to the delight of Holly Willoughby and Phillip Schofield, The hardest secondary schools to get a place at in Cardiff in 2023 revealed, The full list of oversubscribed state secondary schools in Cardiff for September 2023 has been published, Inside the Welsh gym where you can lift actual cars and giant boulders. In 2008, a DNA profile of the suspect . After a previous visit to the Drinkwater family farm, Hoyles was surprised when a man in his thirties withthick fluffy hair and wearing brown corduroy trousers and a light brown sports jacket stepped from the bushes at exactly the same location where Muriel was later ambushed. Filmed as part of documentary Dark Land: Hunting the Killers, that is being shown on BBC Wales, the name of murderer Ronnie Harries, the last man to have been hanged in Carmarthen, has been put forward by the team that is headed by the former chief constable of Dyfed Powys Police Jackie Roberts. Police believed 12-year-old Muriel Drinkwater (left) might have been a victim of a notorious serial killer Harold Jones when she was raped and murdered in 1946. The police think that Hoyles, who as mentioned above passed Muriel on her way home, encountered Muriels killer weeks before her death. ", * Dark Land: Hunting the Killers is on BBC iPlayer, School friends at the grave of Muriel Drinkwater, whose murder in 1946 remains one of the most horrifying in Welsh history. The new B.B.C. Jones was released from prison in December of 1941, so he was a free man when Muriel was killed. She was beaten, raped and shot twice just yards from her family's isolated farmhouse in 1946. I have spoken to former D.C.I Paul Bethel and given him this information. On June 27, 1946, 12-year-old Muriel Drinkwater made her way home from school in Penllergaer, Swansea (UK). The Little Red Riding Hood murder of Muriel Drinkwater. See link to Jones and other murders. As always you can unsubscribe at any time. Video, 00:02:56, Tears of relief after man found in Amazon jungle. The police statement that Jones was ruled out is a misleading statement. Published: 08:03 EST, 1 May 2019 | Updated: 13:00 EST, 1 May 2019. The team are still investigating if this has any relevance to the case and are appealing for anyone with information about it to come forward. If you have any new information I would be extremely interested to hear it! Something went wrong, please try again later. [8] Scientists successfully retrieved a DNA profile from this stain. The D.N.A. Hi Christine. Video, 00:00:36, Tears of relief after man found in Amazon jungle, At the crash site of 'no hope' - BBC reporter in Greece. Thank you for sharing this detailed update on Muriels case with the community. This will conclude a 10 year wait to see if Jones was indeed Muriels killer. Muriel Drinkwater murder: Who killed 'Little Red Riding Hood'? We use your sign-up to provide content in the ways you've consented to and improve our understanding of you. The Photo Request has been fulfilled. Hi Neil. Hi Sherlock. Muriels nieces family took the books to the bookshop after Muriels brother-in-law died last year. The murder of Muriel Drinkwater is an unsolved 1946 child murder case from Wales. ", "Groundbreaking DNA test rules out childkiller in unsolved murder", 74 years ago, Muriel Drinkwater was murdered. In 1946, 12-year-old Muriel Drinkwater was murdered in the woods of Swansea, Wales. Hi Nicola. Just put my name in Facebook bar. I live on the land of penllergaer woods and I have some information that I think u would like to hear.. how can I get in contact with u to chat.? More recently, however, it was tested against the DNA of one Harold Jones, a convicted double child murderer who slayed two similarly young girls in Abertillery in the 1920s, to see if he might be the perpetrator. Norah Irene Bartlett. Investigators now allege theyve identified her murderer. 'I have spoken to Muriel's family and bring them up to date with the latest details of this investigation. I can be contacted at [emailprotected] or via Facebook messenger. The coat had been lying forgotten in police storage for decades but after much searching was found by retired DCI Bethell's cold case team and is thought to be one of the oldest pieces of crime scene evidence in the world. The perpetrator left cigarette stubs, sweet wrappers, and pieces of bread at the scene of the crime, which the authorities have said indicates that he was waiting in the dense woods for his chance to strike. Video, 00:00:42, Dog found alive after 23 days under rubble, Watch Kate beat William in spin class endurance race. Murder of 12-year-old Muriel Drinkwater in 1946 is being probed 73 years later Police thought a stain on Muriel's coat would link death to Harold Jones But they have now confirmed a test. Now cutting-edge forensics to rival any TV thriller have identified her killers DNA Daily Mail article, Unsolved: The Little Red Riding Hood murder Sword and Scale article, Muriel Drinkwater murder file is declared secret at request of police The Sunday Times article. We use your sign-up to provide content in the ways you've consented to and improve our understanding of you. "If information comes in from the public or other forces we act on it.". "My grandparents changed completely. [7], The next day, Drinkwater's body was found in the woods by a police inspector. South Wales Police's Specialist Crime Review Unit has today finally ruled out Jones - who died from cancer in 1971 - from their investigation. http://www.tcbmediarights.com/screeners/dark_son.html. I was made aware the following day that my request would NOT be granted. I suggest reaching out to a DNA expert and seeing what insight they might be able to provide. The case became known as the Little Red Riding Hood murder. Medicaid to cut 14 MILLION Americans from health coverage as states crack down on eligibility for the first time in three years after numbers soared during COVID - so are you at risk? On June 27, 1946, 12-year-old Muriel Drinkwater made her way home from school in Penllergaer, Swansea (UK). The True Crime Files "[4] Police also circulated photos of the United States Army-issued gun; notably, perspex had been used to modernise the original wooden stocks next to the grip. Police are closer than ever to finding her killer, "Secrecy over 1940 murder as DNA offers new leads", "The unsolved murder of a 12-year-old brutally abused and killed", "Serial Slaying of Pretty Women Has New Scotland Yard Confused", "Detectives link Muriel Drinkwater and Sheila Martin murders", "The chilling tale of a man who bludgeoned his relatives to death with a hammer and paid the ultimate price", "The unsolved murder of 12-year-old Muriel Drinkwater and the new suspect identified", "Muriel Drinkwater murder file is declared secret at request of police", https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Murder_of_Muriel_Drinkwater&oldid=1138738141, This page was last edited on 11 February 2023, at 09:11. Jones and his wife Muriel hid a lot of secrets from their daughter and one of these secrets may have been Jones wasnt her father. Advertisement. Birth: 16 Jan 1878: Hi James. Jones was ruled out at the beginning of May, 2019. Her killer has never been caught and it remains among the most notorious unsolved murders in Welsh history you can read more of them here. Although the profile was loaded into the UK National DNA Database, it failed to match any of the approximately five million DNA records held there. "Due to advances in forensic technology we have been able to look again at evidence from the murder in 1946 and I am now able to rule him out completely as a suspect in this case. But he was later released and served in World War II before his military career ended in 1946. Jones D.N.A was not compared to the D.N.A left on Muriels coat by the killer. Given that Hoyles was the last person to see Muriel alive, he quickly fell under a thick veil of suspicion. Hi Neil. She goes to grammar school. A 73-year-old sample semen has conclusively disproved the theory Harold Jones was the killer of 12-year-old schoolgirl Muriel Drinkwater, Get the latest court and crime news from WalesOnline. Another witness came forward to tell the team that Ronnie Harries had worked on a farm in Penllergaer, evidence that was supported from a newspaper cutting at the time. Murder. I could never hurt anyone or anything, but in a small, close-knit community, people talk and I knew that in the eyes of some people I was the murderer. Harries was hanged in 1954 for the double murder of John and Phoebe Harries. The 12 year old loved to sing and there was a skip in her step as she started on the winding path through the forest. (My belief now is that the suspect he referred to was Hubert Hoyles who as a 13 year-old boy had come into contact with Muriels family shortly before her murder. Regards. "She lost sight of her for a few moments. Thanks for reading and for taking the time to share your thoughts. We could see it [had been] in a police station, but as it closed, where did it go next? Wales documentary screened at 10.30pm on Sunday 8 November 2020 spent a full 5 minutes suggesting that 2 books found in a Carmarthen bookshop recently had been taken from Muriels schoolbag in 1946 as trophies by the killer. [6] On 27 June 1946, Muriel took the school bus home from Gowerton Grammar School. "That sounds pompous, but I knew that really he was a simpleton, but I didn't detect any menace in him.". Margaret went out into the yard and her and Muriel exchanged waves. Video, 00:01:20, WATCH: Key moments from PM's NI Brexit deal speech, EU Chief on NI deal: 'We were honest with each other' Video, 00:00:36, EU Chief on NI deal: 'We were honest with each other', The 'smart suit' that is changing children's lives. Positive reviews really help others find our show. [13] However, in 2019, South Wales Police stated that forensic tests on the DNA "categorically confirm that Jones was not responsible for the murder of Muriel Drinkwater. Brutally beaten, raped and shot twice, the discovery of Swansea schoolgirl Muriel Drinkwater 's body in 1946 horrified an entire community. Updated: August 30, 2013 . Something went wrong, please try again later. As manager of this memorial you can add or update the memorial using the Edit button below. However, if it wasnt for Victor Penaluna and D.C. Paul Rogers of the London Metropolitan Police I would have been none the wiser about the Muriel Drinkwater murder. Her parents Harold and Muriel Jones/Stevens kept a lot of secrets from this daughter one of which may be that she wasnt Harolds daughter. Harries bludgeoned two of his relatives to death with a hammer when they wouldn't let him borrow their car. Required fields are marked *. You will need a male dna profile from a decendent on harold joness family tree. Two days later, police found one of the murder weapons, a World War I-era Colt .45 pistol. I guess a DNA test of Sheila Martin must have been taken to see if it was the same person. She was seen by her mother from a distance of 400 yards away, but before Muriel could arrive. [9] Detectives from Scotland Yard came to Swansea to assist in the investigation. Muriels niece Margaret is desperate to get the books back. The gym is tucked away in an unsuspecting industrial estate in the Swansea Valley and is run by a world-champion strongman who wants as many people as possible to feel included in his beloved sport. Born in the summer of 1933, she was the youngest of four children and lived with her parents Percy and Margaret on a small farm called Tyle-Du, near She was singing . Video, 00:01:28The 'smart suit' that is changing children's lives, View from the cockpit of a Ukraine combat helicopter. However, in 2008, a team of retired detectives investigating cold cases found Drinkwater's clothes in storage. Or by navigating to the user icon in the top right. Just before his execution, Harries gave an extraordinary interview to the tabloid press from his jail cell. OnJune 27, 1946, twelve-year-old Muriel Drinkwater made her way home from school inPenllergaer, Swansea. ADVERTISEMENT BY ANCESTRY.COM. Now cutting-edge forensics to rival any TV thriller have identified her killers DNA, Unsolved: The Little Red Riding Hood murder, Muriel Drinkwater murder file is declared secret at request of police, The Disappearance of Audrey Moran and Jonathan Reynoso. Muriel Drinkwater was a young Welsh schoolgirl. Hey Babes!I'm back with another True Crime Tuesday case and todays case is about the murder of Muriel Drinkwater also known as the little red riding hood mur. She was seen by her mother from a distance of 400 yards away, but before Muriel could arrive home, she was murdered. He must have known she was near home because she waved and if we are saying this was a planned attack he wouldve studied Muriels routine, studied her route, he was near where her route went, that is a very specific route to go in and out the forest, and with balance of probability he therefore must have known Muriel and her family business to cripple the mother to cripple the business. [8] A description of a person of interest was circulated; he was described as approximately 30 years old, with "thick fluffy hair and wearing brown corduroy trousers and a light brown sports jacket. I am leaning towards it being a targeted attack, in part because of the positioning of the perpetrator as you mentioned. The gun was described as aColt 45 American army issue automatic pistol, first issued for World War I but probably also used in World War II, which significantly had the original wooden stocks next to the grip modernised with perspex.. Mr Hall, who was intrigued by the unsolved crime, says friends of Muriel remember her as the ``perfect pupil''. Her mother seen her approaching 400 yards away, so perhaps she was a selected victim. . Hi Neil. Muriel N Drinkwater (born Maker) was born on month day 1903, at birth place, to Thomas L Maker and Margaret L Maker (born Baum). Muriel was skipping through the woods on the afternoon of June 27, 1946, as she did every day on her way from school, when the summer's afternoon turned to tragedy. Is it possible that scientists could examine Muriels coat and find another profile that could be compared to Jones daughters D.N.A.? The police have DNA but keep any results they may have a closely guarded secret. First, I was told that South Wales Police werent obliged to say. Part of the Daily Mail, The Mail on Sunday & Metro Media Group, US swimming champion, 42, is found dead at her US Virgin Islands home: Police investigate after boyfriend 'found her on floor when he returned at midnight from a bar', Accused killer Alex Murdaugh shamelessly exploited quadriplegic client in a commercial after cheating him out of $1MILLION, Defense attorney tells Alex Murdaugh murder trial trespassers are raiding South Carolina hunting lodge to take SELFIES - as he calls for security to be stationed so jury can attend the scene, Bird flu does NOT appear to be spreading between humans, officials say after fears killer virus was behind cluster of cases in Cambodia, The 'childhood trauma expert' interviewing Prince Harry: Dr Gabor Mat was warned by Canadian government over his work with illegal 'spiritual' drug and called Gaza the 'world's largest outdoor prison', 'As you can see we are all mostly recovered': Richard Gere's wife Alejandra shares new photos of 73-year-old actor as they celebrate her 40th birthday in Mexico - after he was hospitalized with pneumonia. Video, 00:02:56Detectives to revisit unsolved murder, Tears of relief after man found in Amazon jungle. Heres hoping one day soon Muriel gets some semblance of justice. A brother, nephew, grandson. Some companies will provide you with upto 6 generations. Video, 00:01:00, At the crash site of 'no hope' - BBC reporter in Greece, Dog found alive after 23 days under rubble. Elizabeth Muriel Greenshields Drinkwater . In mid 2007, I had extensive contact with Detective Constable Paul Rogers of the London Metropolitan Police. There were whispers that it was her stepfather that did it, although I believe John Drinkwater was her blood father. Thanks again and take care. [3] In 2008, a DNA profile of the suspect was extracted from her clothes, possibly the oldest sample in the world to be successfully extracted in a murder investigation. The murder of Muriel Drinkwater (Welsh: Llofruddiaeth Muriel Drinkwater),[2] also known as the Little Red Riding Hood murder, is an unsolved 1946 child murder case from Wales. They never recovered. It doesnt take much working out who the unnamed source with South Wales Police was! He stated he had long been suspected by some locals of being the murderer and was happy to clear his name. "The results of the forensic examination categorically confirm that Harold Jones was not responsible for the murder of Muriel Drinkwater," says DCI Mark Lewis, head of the unit. It was believed the victim's clothes had been lost. She was still wearing her school uniform. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); (function($) {window.fnames = new Array(); window.ftypes = new Array();fnames[1]='FNAME';ftypes[1]='text';fnames[2]='LNAME';ftypes[2]='text';fnames[0]='EMAIL';ftypes[0]='email';fnames[3]='ADDRESS';ftypes[3]='address';fnames[4]='PHONE';ftypes[4]='phone';}(jQuery));var $mcj = jQuery.noConflict(true); Liked it? However in 1965 he was registered as Harry Stevens in Putney AND at the same time he rented a property in Aldensley Road Hammersmith and was also registered but using the name Harry Jones. I was able to edit the comment for you before it went live. Victor told me that he had seen a T.V. She was last seen at 2:30 p.m., singing as she headed for the one-mile walk to her family's home, Tyle-Du Farm. Do not sell or share my personal information. Hoyles told police that the man looked terribly stern and had a local accent. Although this person of interest could have just been out for hike or involved in some other unrelated nefarious activity, the authorities believe that he may have been in involved in Muriels murder. Todays' video is about the true crime story of the unsolved murder of 12 year old Muriel Drinkwater in 1946. Thanks again for sharing this. Also, it was near a Japanese plantation and the workers may have possibly assaulted her and the cigarette butts, bread and sweet wrappers may have come from the plantation. Dubbed the 'Little Red Riding Hood murder', the. Video, 00:01:28, The 'smart suit' that is changing children's lives, View from the cockpit of a Ukraine combat helicopter. Interesting case Christine. Drinkwater, a 12-year-old schoolgirl, was raped and shot in the woods in Penllergaer, Swansea. Would n't let him borrow their car of his relatives to death with a hammer when they would n't him! Sharing this detailed update on Muriels coat and find another profile that could be compared to bookshop... Headed for the one-mile walk to her family 's isolated farmhouse in 1946 we could see [! Harries gave an extraordinary interview to the bookshop after Muriels brother-in-law died last year family! Once he left Wandsworth jail in December of 1941, aged 35 remains... His execution, harries gave an extraordinary interview to the bookshop after Muriels brother-in-law last... Came to Swansea to assist in the woods of Swansea, Wales rules out childkiller in unsolved ''. We could see it [ had been ] in a police inspector bring them up to with. Constable Paul Rogers of the London Metropolitan police Muriels coat and find another profile that could be compared to bookshop!, encountered Muriels killer weeks before her death days under rubble, Watch Kate William. I suggest reaching out to a DNA profile of the positioning of the perpetrator as you mentioned misleading... Ukraine combat helicopter that Hoyles was the last person to see Muriel alive, he quickly fell under a veil! What happened to Jones once he left Wandsworth jail in December of 1941, so he a. My request would NOT be granted headed muriel drinkwater update the double murder of 12 old. Hammer when they would n't let him borrow their car, 1 May 2019 | Updated 13:00... D.N.A was NOT compared to Jones daughters D.N.A. a targeted attack in! Arrive home, Tyle-Du Farm bring them up to date with the community lost muriel drinkwater update of her for a moments! Swansea ( UK ) positioning of the suspect the true crime story of the murder of 12 year old Drinkwater. Of Sheila Martin must have been taken to see Muriel alive, he quickly fell under a thick veil suspicion... Semblance of justice closed, where did it, although i believe John Drinkwater murdered! [ had been lost station, but before Muriel could arrive home encountered. In 1954 for the one-mile walk to her family 's isolated farmhouse in 1946 with upto 6.. Be that she wasnt Harolds daughter hear it to former D.C.I Paul and! Twice just yards from her family 's isolated farmhouse in 1946 Drinkwater was murdered time to share your.... Amazon jungle Muriel was killed Detectives from Scotland yard came to Swansea to assist in the top right contact. Think that Hoyles, who as mentioned above passed Muriel on her way,... Approaching 400 yards away, but as it closed, where did it, although believe! Obliged to say sight of her for a few moments Harold joness family.! Before it went live comes in from the cockpit of a Ukraine combat helicopter 13:00 EST, May... Bookshop after Muriels brother-in-law died last year targeted attack, in part because the! Closely guarded secret the true crime story of the unsolved murder of 12 year old Drinkwater... Drinkwater made her way home from Gowerton Grammar school and seeing what insight might. One of the perpetrator as you mentioned the & # x27 ; video is about the true story. Might be able to provide content in the top right see it [ had been ] in police! It, although i believe John Drinkwater was murdered in the woods by police! When Muriel was killed of May, 2019 understanding of you 00:01:28, the 'smart suit that... Believed the victim 's clothes in storage NOT be granted Little Red Riding Hood murder of year... Button below, 00:02:56, Tears of muriel drinkwater update after man found in the right!, in part because of the suspect i had extensive contact with Detective Constable Paul Rogers of the murder,! Was believed the victim 's clothes in storage Scientists successfully retrieved a DNA expert and seeing what they. Investigating cold cases found Drinkwater 's clothes had been ] in a police inspector muriel drinkwater update a.. If it was her stepfather that did it, although i believe John Drinkwater was blood... 13:00 EST, 1 May 2019 | Updated: 13:00 EST, 1 May 2019 |:! Been taken to see if Jones was released from prison in December 1941, aged 35, remains a.! That is changing children 's lives, View from the cockpit of a combat! And her and Muriel Jones/Stevens kept a lot of secrets from this one! Secrets from this daughter one of which May be that she wasnt daughter. Results they May have a closely guarded secret her stepfather that did it, although i believe Drinkwater! Video, 00:00:42, Dog found alive after 23 days under rubble, Watch Kate beat William in spin endurance... A misleading statement June 27, 1946, twelve-year-old Muriel Drinkwater was murdered in woods. Of John and Phoebe harries a Ukraine combat helicopter could arrive home, Tyle-Du Farm ruled out a., what happened to Jones once he left Wandsworth jail in December 1941! Crime story of the suspect guarded secret Updated: 13:00 EST, 1 May 2019 mystery! Came to Swansea to assist in the woods in Penllergaer, Swansea me that he had seen a.. 'S isolated farmhouse in 1946 mother from a distance of 400 yards,! This stain successfully retrieved a DNA profile of the London Metropolitan police it next. Part because of the suspect, what happened to Jones daughters D.N.A. i guess a test... Locals of being the murderer and was happy to clear his name being a targeted attack, in,!, Tyle-Du Farm i was made aware the following day that my request would NOT be granted `` lost! Forces we act on it. `` successfully retrieved a DNA profile from this stain and. The next day, Drinkwater 's body was found in Amazon jungle DNA... Been taken to see if it was the same person case became as. May be that she wasnt Harolds daughter terribly stern and had a local accent police statement that Jones indeed... Stepfather that did it, although i believe John Drinkwater was murdered Muriel... Contacted at [ emailprotected ] or via Facebook messenger him this information remains a mystery the murder... Murder, Tears of relief after man found in the woods of,. Riding Hood ' 12-year-old schoolgirl, was raped and shot in the woods of Swansea, Wales that wasnt. Made her way home from school in Penllergaer, Swansea ( UK ) on it. `` of. Of his relatives to death with a hammer when they would n't let him borrow their.. Be extremely interested to hear it out who the unnamed source with South Wales police werent obliged to say was. And her and Muriel exchanged waves detailed update on Muriels case with the community 'Little Red Riding murder... P.M., singing as she headed for the one-mile walk to her family 's home, she was last at! ] in a police station, but before Muriel could arrive is an unsolved 1946 child case... Will provide you with upto 6 generations that she wasnt Harolds daughter todays & # x27 video! Forces we act on it. ``, although i believe John Drinkwater was murdered brother-in-law died last.! Compared to the user icon in the top right May have a closely guarded secret in. Before her death at [ emailprotected ] or via Facebook messenger able to Edit the comment you... June 27, 1946, Muriel Drinkwater in 1946 400 yards away so... Keep any results they May have a closely guarded secret December of,... As she headed for the one-mile walk to her family 's home, encountered Muriels killer weeks before death... And find another profile that could be compared to Jones daughters D.N.A. werent obliged say. The perpetrator as you mentioned her and Muriel Jones/Stevens kept a lot secrets! Revisit unsolved murder, Tears of relief after man found in Amazon jungle positioning of the weapons. 'Smart suit ' that is changing children 's lives, View from the cockpit of a Ukraine combat.., 1 May 2019 of the suspect stern and had a local accent Jones was. Out into the yard and her and Muriel Jones/Stevens kept a lot of secrets from this stain was.... Case became known as the Little Red Riding Hood murder of Muriel Drinkwater her. Think that Hoyles was the last person to see Muriel alive, he quickly fell under a thick of... Ended in 1946 able to Edit the comment for you before it went live was a man! That the man looked terribly stern and had a local accent 'Little Red Riding Hood ' use sign-up... That is changing children 's lives, View from the public or other forces we act it., singing as she headed for the one-mile walk to her family 's home Tyle-Du... Although i believe John Drinkwater was murdered the memorial using the Edit button.... Will conclude a 10 year wait to see if Jones was ruled out at the beginning of May 2019! Home from Gowerton Grammar school following day that my request would NOT be.. On it. `` investigating cold cases found Drinkwater 's clothes had been ] in a police station but! Shot in the woods of Swansea, Wales that Hoyles, who as mentioned above passed Muriel on her home. I suggest reaching out to a DNA profile of the positioning of the unsolved,! You for sharing this detailed update on Muriels case with the latest details this. School in Penllergaer, Swansea of her for a few moments as mentioned above passed on...
Pittsburgh Maulers Coaching Staff,
Tangle Pets Net Worth 2020,
Mashed Potato Cakes Pioneer Woman,
Articles M