$ 87.00 - $ 145.00. Although, the 28 Nosler is an awesome cartridge. The 7mm Weatherby has the same recoil as a .300 Winchester Magnum, and many shooters can't come to grips with it. Sounds like from above that ADG is making 7 MAX brass, which is what Rich told me last year would be happening. ADG 7mm Rem Mag Brass. The .28 Nosler and 7mm RUM push the same bulletsjust faster. ELD-Match zeroed for MPBR on a 6-inch target zone. JavaScript is disabled. Nosler shortened the RUM case, gave it a 35-degree shoulder, and shortened the neck to .276. Elk, moose, kudu and similar large . Like I said, I'm biased for the 7RM. Nothing to call home about, but its solid for any North American game to 7 or 800 yards based on about any standard metric. Sign up with your email address to receive news and updates. The 180's will work with a 9 nit the bigger bullets will have a decided edge in the wind. I think the 7saum is here to stay. Bullet made it in about 3" an blew a big hole in it. Few, if any, cartridges shoot as flat and hit as hard at distance as the 7mm Weatherby. burning 61 grains Reloder 22, 28 Nosler, 3,200 fps from 26 bl., 88-grs. Great availability of components and above all a barrel that will last 1500+ when used like a hunting rifle and cared for. Ryan Pierce is a gunsmith, Piercison Rifles, and he is the first person I saw that was playing with the extra freebore. The Nosler loads were developed in Remington cases with Remington primers, and chronographed in a 24 inch barrel. For Connaught we moved to 7mm SAUMs and in preparation of going to that FCWC I got . Almost through fire forming but ran some pressure ladders with fully formed brass with 180 Berger hybrids, H1000 looks like I'll be at a good max at 3000 fps and R26 3050 fps and I good life. If you were to blow the taper out to .010" and add-in a 40-degree shoulder, you would only gain 1.9 grains of case capacity. Smaller-framed or young shooters generally consider the cartridge as having high recoil, but its recoil is manageable for experienced large-framed shooters to be able to shoot it regularly. . However I am still using H4831, and I bet with VV N 570 or RL26 I could pass those speeds easily. It is intended for long-range shooting due to its ability to utilize high BC bullets, and is also uniquely suited for hunting large animals such as elk. I'm the same as you. First, the 7mm Rem Mag and 28 Nosler use larger diameter bullets than the 6.8 Western. In shorter barrels, performance declines dramatically. Great performance, easy to neck a case down and a simple bushing change gets you great dies. The only advantage I'd see with the SAUM is using a short action. Looking at going with the 7mag or 28 nosler. Im going to run a tikka action/stock trigger with spring upgrade with a 22in carbon barrel and a light weight scope. make ideal whitetail and mule deer takers with 140-to 160-grain bullets. One of the most prominent differences between the two is that the 28 Nosler fires a bullet diameter of 7mm or 0.284" while the 300 PRC fires the . rick smith. Barrel life is always a concern with maximum velocity, so-called overbore cartridges. JavaScript seems to be disabled in your browser. Well, i was leaning towards the 28 Nosler, but now I'm seriously considering the 7mm RM. Its a criterion 26 barrel. Thats the 7mm magnum advantage. Buy Now. He is having adg make brass for him, its head stamped and the neck diameter and length are correct for his design, will still need to be fire formed. This just-released (October 26, 2022) cartridge has the potential to become the 7mm Remington Magnum of the 21st century. Trustpilot. I like off the shelf ammo and its 7 mag, 28 Nosler, 7mm-08 and the 280. 8tw 195 or maybe the new 190 atips. gavevare til innvarming, bryllup, bursdager og alle anledninger. Many find them, like the 280ai, to be a great compromise between ballistics and recoil. Going super light though might make the 280 ai another good choice. I'm going 7-300prc because it'll out pace a 7mag by 100-150fps with all bullet weights at much more manage pressures. Now waiting on ADG to do another run of 7 SAUM brass. SAUM can be found on the . The Hodgdon technicians used Winchester cases and primers to develop their loads, and they were chronographed in a 24 inch barrel. Want to do 24-26 barrel. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. They explain in part the enduring popularity of the 7mm Rem. 28 Nosler offers excellent performance but brass is spendy and availability is hit or miss . Im in the market to start a new build. Dec 7, 2019 #14 ; 7 mag easy. Trustpilot. I wouldn't do either in a 24" , I would definitely go 26" at a minimum. https://westtexordnance.com/7mm-300-norma-improved/, https://www.longrangehunting.com/threads/28-nosler-195-berger-re33-testing.159270/, Desert Tech SRS A2 Covert FDE w/ conversions, Desert Tech SRS A1 FDE RH 6.5x47L - Parted Out. needed another shot behind the head to kill it. How does the 280 AI do with 180 grain bullets compared to the 7mm SAUM? First, notice that kinetic energy remains above the elk killing minimum of 1,500 ft-lbs at 700 yards. Nosler brass also undergoes the rigorous quality control that premium Nosler bullets have experienced for over 60 years. As you might guess, there isnt much trajectory/performance difference between the RUM and the Nosler. and a high B.C. at the muzzle. Guys report great brass life with belted cases. 180-gr. You say it's long action. include more options in rifles and ammo, more accessible and less expensive ammo, less recoil, a potentially shorter, handier, lighter rifle, and longer barrel life. 7mm PRC vs 28 Nosler The 28 Nosler shoots at faster muzzle velocities, but is an overbore cartridge that requires a very long chamber, with the Hornady hype behind the 7mm PRC, brass and ammo should be much more readily available soon enough. for my brand of hunting. I set my dies to headspace off the shoulder and forget about the belt. Articles may contain affiliate links which enable us to share in the revenue of any purchases made. Clearly the 7mm Rem. The most common comparison is 28 Nosler vs 300 Win Mag, because they're both popular in North America and are kissing cousins as far as bullet diameter goes. Mag. Mag. Brass is not going anywhere as a handloaders cartridge. might not sound like a big deal until you start maneuvering it in and out of cases, trucks, scabbards, and forests. What was your 28 Nosler load with 180s at 3080? For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. JavaScript is disabled. Consider that already own a 270 Win with a 22" barrel. I was tired of lugging the heavy, long, and heavy recoiling 30s around, but wanted more punch than my lighter 6.5CM. The 404 Jeffery sired the majority of Nosler's cartridge line, namely the 30 Nosler, 26 Nosler, and 33 Nosler as well as other cartridges like the 7mm Remington Short Action Ultra Magnum (SAUM). I was looking at a 7-300 win, 7-300NM, and a few others. Sign up with your email address to receive news and updates. Fr pske salg: Opptil 50 % rabatt + Gratis frakt over 499 kr . I made the same decision not long ago and went 7mm RM, although barrel life was a consideration for me, which it probably wouldn't be on a strictly hunting rig. Nosler really hampered the performance of that round with the 3.340" COAL length. 7mm RM, 2,900 fps from 24 bl. 7mm mag has stood the test of time. Given the same basic form and muzzle velocity (MV), a 180-grain, .284 bullet will fly flatter, drift less, and retain more energy downrange than a 180-grain .308 bullet . Note: A full length article about the 7mm WSM and 7mm Rem. Remington claims that the ballistics of the 7mm SAUM equal those of the popular 7mm Rem. The lighter, shorter 7mm bullets are preferred in these short case magnums. It will never be as popular as a 6.5PRC or 28nosler, but it has a purpose. $81.95. Clear winner. Most hunters who resist target practice can get a lifetime of good accuracy out of these 7mms. It had impressed its power upon our troops in Cuba under fire from Spanish Mausers in 1898. Published Nov 25, 2019 7:53 PM EST. Reactions: Zeroit. Thanks. There are now at least 14 7mm cartridges being manufactured in the U.S. with several wildcats waiting in the wings. The 7mm shoots .284-inch diameter bullets through bores .28-inch across, but only two use this Imperial measuring system in their titles: .280 Remington and .284 Winchester, both excellent but underrated standard velocity cartridges. . All the info in that thread made my decision for me. $120.95. Supporter. Snipers Hide is a community of Snipers of all kinds, focusing on long range shooting, accuracy, and ballistics. Ballistic twins. I used to shoot 154gr hornady interbonds at 3750 and latest was not to push over 3400. The 7 SAUM offers better performance than the 300 Win Mag in a package that is almost as small as the 6.5 Creedmoor. Also, is it worth getting a new rifle in the 280AI when I already have a 270 Win? Creedmoor Sports $ 116.95 . Great extraction and wide nodes with many powders. These bullets are super tempting to run at 3200+. But they didnt shorten anything. .672., MV 2,900 fps. We are now conversant in 6mm, 6.5mm, 7.62mm and especially 7mm. Like most of our early magnums, this is based on the belted .375 H&H Magnum case. Run 230-240 freebore this will work for 180eldm, 184, 190,195 Bergers. In order to obtain that performance from a .30 caliber, I would need to jump into the .300 Win. Never saw the need for the added horse power of the 7 STW so I sold it and stayed with the 7 mm Rem Mag. I wish there was more 7SAUM options, I feel there's a gap in the market. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Does a great job on Elk or pig. More than 1,900 ft-lbs of energy at 700 yards. My thinking was that good ol' 7mm RM. $94.95 $79.95. Just picked up a tikka for a donor build for a lightweight 6.5 PRC or 7mm SAUM. ADG 300 Rem Ultra Mag Brass. The best part is that the recoil is super easy compared to a 300. Almost through fire forming but ran some pressure ladders with fully formed brass with 180 Berger hybrids, H1000 looks like I'll be at a good max at 3000 fps and R26 3050 fps and I good life. Anyone looking for really good dies call Whiddon and have them made. However, if youre hoping to win a target shooting contest at 600 yards, the 3 inches less wind deflection and 4 inches less drop from the PRC give you a leg up. But if your wanting the long action anyway, I'd go with the 280ai. Use a 1:8 twist and the 7RM will be no slouch. Overall cartridge length of the 7mm RUM is 3.6 inches, right there with a .375 H&H Magnum. If barrel quality is equally consistent, run-of-the-mill accuracy should exceed that of most rifles chambered for older 7mm cartridges. Like you said though, it's pretty tough to go wrong. Remington claims a MV of 3175 fps and ME of 3133 ft. lbs. The .28 Nosler of 2015 was their solution. That's what I would do unless you have to have something much faster. I have a 6.5 saum that is my go to long range coues rifle and it is my favorite rifle but not my first choice for an elk cartridge. Going to be used from antelope to elk. load hitting 2,970 fps and a 28 Nosler hitting 3211fps with the same bullet. Mag. Mag. Because the 7mm RM is a familiar benchmark, lets establish some basic performance numbers in an 8 pound rifle with 24-inch barrel spitting a representative spire point, boat tail, 175-grain hunting bullet, B.C. at the muzzle. 92 grs. with either the Berger 215- or 230-grain Hybrid and push them at maximum pressures. 6.5 PRC or .28 Nosler. SAUM can be found on the Rifle Cartridge Page. Read Next: Small Calibers for Big Game. For reasons that I can't explain (though perhaps have something to do with me eating paint chips as a kid), I have an obsession with 3k FPS muzzle velocity. Bonus benefits with the 7mm Rem. Additionally you can tune your load so accuracy difference go out the window. Instead, the Hornady-developed RCM case was used to produce the 6.5 PRC. ADG 28 Nosler. Straight on shot into chest between the legs at about 50 yds. Here are some specifications of interest to those reloading the 7mm WSM cartridge: bullet diameter .284", maximum COL 2.860", maximum case length 2.100". And with RL33 hes getting 3140 fps (pretty easily), using Retumbo (for it's temp stability) drops it about 75 fps. HOWEVER, I don't follow the logic of having to use a 26" barrel if you go the Nosler route. I have both the 300 and 7mm SAUM, the 300 is on a model 7 action and the 7mm a standard 700SA. Assuming that would be as illogical as assuming the 30-06 Springfield, 308 Winchester, and 223 Remington are strictly military cartridges. If you want 7mm magnum performance, youll have to change tires (barrels) now and then. Check out the 10 mph right-angle wind deflection at 400 yards: just 7.82 inches. The parent cartridge is a shortened 7mm Remington Ultra Mag. Part of this is due to the .40 inches of freeborn Remington builds into its 7mm RUMs to minimize chamber pressures on ignition. Both were introduced in 2001. But if you are only going to shoot the 160's you may be ok with SAAMI spec'd chamber. Mag. It will shoot as fast as a 7mm SAUM and brass is easy to find. I would not be overly concerned with it only being for hunting. I think if I was buying a hunting rifle, and just wanted to keep a few high quality boxes of factory ammo around, the I would go 7Rm. Vintersalg: Opptil 60 % rabatt + Gratis frakt over 499 kr . Which one would you choose and why? I dont reload but i see this statement a lot. haha The good part is it's kinda hard to go wrong these days being there are so many great choices. Said barrels will also be throated long enough for seating such bullets above the powder reservoir. Creedmoor Sports $ 116.95 . To get this Hornady went to its usual bag of tricks: The new, updated Remington M700 standard length action rifles handled the Hornady 7mm PRC 180-gr. And it will likely penetrate farther because more of its mass rides in the long shank behind its nose. Of course, this was an overreaction, but at the time millions were convinced the new 7mm was the do-all-end-all of deer/elk/moose and even bear hunting cartridges. Most people are getting sub half moa. Genesis 1:1 NRA Benefactor Life, SAF, RMEF, Memberships "Want to stop drunk drivers from killing sober drivers? Again, both seen like great options but I want this to be a hunting rig, as I've got a rifle for shooting steel. ABLR in the 28 Nosler. All Rights Reserved. Typical 140- to 175-grain, .284 slugs are wide enough to resist bending (a problem Bell had with tough, thick elephant bones) yet narrow enough to minimize drag. Buy Now. JavaScript is disabled. I have hunted with a 7mm Rem Mag and a 7mmSTW. 7mm Rem Short Action Ultra Magnum Load Data. The 28 is not going to be but about 25-50 FPS faster and it makes little difference. Creedmoor Sports $ 120.95 . My vote would be for the 7 saum. Both are great rounds. I'm worried bout the need of a 26" barrel for the Nosler, and hoping to get away with a 24" since I'm trying to run an Ultra 7 with it. Hornadys 7mm PRC with its high B.C. If you dont own a 7mm of any kind and want one strictly for hunting, you might as well get the PRC version. And heres the same 175-gr. RDF, or Bergers 190-gr. ADG 300 PRC Brass. You are using an out of date browser. Diver160651 Who cares. landed with a splash big enough to drench every deer/elk cartridge in North America. Pretty sure the can thing is a complete game changer on optimal barrel length. Less well known in the U.S. (but more ballistically advanced) was the 7mm Weatherby Magnum from the early 1940s. I don't feel the need to give up barrel life (it may be a hunting rifle but I still practice with it) for a marginal increase in speed, as well as more powder and more expensive brass. Abonner p vrt nyhetsbrev og bli den frste som fr vite om kuponger og spesielle kampanjer. 7mm Rem. Fr pske salg: Opptil 50 % rabatt + Gratis frakt over 499 kr . Been looking for a while. Qty: Add to cart. The Nosler Reloading Guide 9 lists a 175-gr. If we're talking optimizing performance, a 26" barrel is not optimum for either cartridge - you should instead be looking at 30" - 32" barrels. I didnt have any problems finding reloading supplies. Thanks, BnG. The 7mm has a longer barrel and is heavier. Here are some specifications of interest to those reloading the 7mm SAUM cartridge: bullet diameter .284", maximum COL 2.825", maximum case length 2.035". JavaScript is disabled. Another vote for 280ai if building a light weight hunt rig all the horsepower needed close to 7rm but standard action with room for an extra round. Was tempted to do a 270 WSM with 170 EOLs. Barrel life will also be lower than the other two. The first question you have to ask when designing a new cartridge is, "WHY?" The 7LRM (Long Range Magnum) is a non-belted case that has the same overall length as the 7mm Rem Mag with a standard magnum case head. It's often put head-to-head with other popular calibers like the 7mm Rem. The 175/180 class Bullets sneaking along (1/4 MOA) at 2950-ish give or take, certainly not to par with the newer selections. The 28 Nosler is also loaded to a slightly higher pressure than the 300 Win Mag (65,000psi vs 64,000psi). If you compare Nosler .280 AI brass vs. Nosler 7SAUM brass, you get twice the cases (50) with the .280 AI for only $10 more than what it costs for 25 cases of 7mm SAUM. We ain't raisen no yuppy girls! And at sensible hunting distances even a basic MPBR hunter should have find more than 90 percent of his shooting opportunities covered by the Rem Mag. In the past, running 284 Win (reaching back to Raton, 2013), I would have said that (for me at least) a rechamber would be in order for a straight 284 around the 2000 round mark. 7mm SAUM Rechamber/Barrel Life. And most of the recent data for the rum is also on the weak side. The additional reach is tempting, but Id pay the price with a 26-inch, fairly heavy barrel. Kind of soured me on light bullet's. Trustpilot. Just cant decide what billets and powder to run. After all the smoke and toasted barrels cleared, I came to my own conclusion that the 7-300 win mag was the winner when all aspects are considered. As the name suggests, this round is aimed squarely at accurate, long range performance. Nosler told me their bonded bullet is designed to retain 70%, same as the partition. (Aim for center and bullet will not rise more than 5 inches nor fall more than 5 inches within the MPBR. Bullet size is another one of the other important differences between the 28 Nosler vs 300 Win Mag. This calls for a light rifle. The structure of the material reveals the hardness. Creedmoor Sports $ 119.95 . Engineers made three modifications that ensured popularity: they shortened the case to fit standard-length actions. Interesting. Mag. But you pay the price in recoil and that 26-inch barrel. Crap I don't remember, I'd have to pull a bullet, I've ran H1000, Retumbo and lots of R33, that load was H1000 but I only have the speed in AB. Ron Spomer Copyright 2004, 2013 by Chuck Hawks. Following since I want to do the exact same thing. This rings home with me. Carefully spaced shots (dont overheat the barrel) always extend life, as does each shooters accuracy demands. More significant are the chamber dimensions, which are tighter than those of most traditional, 20th century hunting cartridges. I think the 7saum is here to stay. Compared to the ballistics of the new Rem. Then Remington blew the doors wide open with their new 7mm magnum chambered in their equally new and affordable M700 rifles. Easily fed from a BDL mag box. Arbeidstid: 08.00-16.00mandag til fredagVi vil svare deg innen 48-72 timer. I already have a few 264 caliber rifles. The 7mm SAUM is an ideal cartridge for long-range competition and long-range hunting. Mag. I also use and like my .284 Win on a long action. Hper du kan nyte shoppingen din her! Were I seeking the absolute top-end, extreme-range performance and willing to carry a 28 inches of barrel, Id look harder at the RUM. So Im going through this same thing Are you wanting to run a shorter barrel? I love my 7 SAUM and would do it again. Buy Now. YMMV . runs at 2940 fps and the .280 AI runs at 2850 fps). Fill this brass case with smokeless powder instead of water and, according to some handloading guides, 62.5 grains of Reloder 22 should shove a 175-grain bullet from a 24-inch barrel 2,870 fps. Still, recoil is lower and ammo/components are cheaper and easier to find. And that means more powder. I've mostly shot 180 Berger's and its been really accurate. yea Im leaning more towards the 28 just cause I dont really want to fire form, I know its not the end of the world but just one more step. rifles. Great case design, great bc bullets available, more efficient powder burn than most 7mm cartridges, low recoil, and very very accurate. The 28 Nosler uses .284 diameter bullets while the 300 Win Mag uses larger .308 bullets. A barrel shot out for target competition might remain more than accurate enough for big game hunting. Either is good. Just FYI before going 7-330NM, check out Long Range Hunting, there is a real long thread on there about the 28 Nosler with the 195 Bergers, just google it. The 180 Berger VLD was my choice for terminal performance. Brass 1 - 12 of 73 Products Sort By Position 220 Swift Premium Brass (50ct) $108.95 6.5mm PRC Bulk Unprepped Brass (100ct) Out of stock $135.49 6.5mm PRC Premium Brass (50ct) Out of stock $118.95 27 Nosler Premium Brass (25ct) Lots of hiking, backpacking, climbing, shooting to 450 yards, maybe 500 yards. Clearly Hornady wasnt trying to break any speed records with the 7 PRC. Varme Hansker for Sykling, Lping og Kjring, Stor kapasitet skulderveskeKjp 2, -10%, 18-i-1 snfnuggformet multiverkty i rustfritt stl, Bilkropp plastnagler festing (150 stk)Kjp 2, -10%. Absolutely nothing special or difficult about reloading belted cases. The 28 Nosler has a muzzle energy of 3470 ft-lbs, and the 30 Nosler has muzzle energy at 3639 ft-lbs. 7mm Rem. Im sure Remington engineers started with the .300 H&H case, but it was itself a modification of the .375, so same difference. Hodgdon reloading data for the 7mm WSM shows that the 140 grain Nosler Partition spitzer bullet can be driven to a MV of 2979 fps in front of 58.0 grains of H4350 powder. Everyone who knows what they're doing headspaces off of the shoulder anyways, and you should not be doing load development with virgin cases, you want to fire form them first so the belt is a moot point. I'd opt for the 7RM. I would go 7 LRM if it wasn't for the Hornady brass . Saw some shiney spots, no bolt lift but did open the pocket a little to the point of a few firings at 3120 fps. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Metallic Reloading Rifle Brass Rifle Brass Rifle brass is made for almost every conceivable cartridge, from 223 brass and 308 brass to older offerings like 30-40 Krag brass and even one of the newest, 6.5 Creedmoor brass. Your results may vary. &mm PRC. My conclusion: if you already own any 7mm magnum for hunting, (7mm WSM, 7mm SAUM, 7mm RM, 7mm LRM, 7mm STW, 7mm Wby. SAUM shows that 56.0 grains of IMR 4350 powder will drive their 140 grain bullets to a MV of 2943 fps, and 60.0 grains of IMR 4350 is good for a MV of 3146 fps. Recreational and practical applications abound with these .22 caliber handguns. Or just step up to the 7 SAUM and run 180s if you want more weight. Three quid k shots can overheat a thin barrel and turn a 1 MOA rifle into a 2 MOA. Copyright Ron Spomer Outdoors document.write(new Date().getFullYear()) His bolt-action rifle was chambered for the confusing .275 Rigby. Im shooting a 7 stw 1 in 8 twist ( ballistic twin to 28 nosler ) 190's at 3005 fps, and the 195's at 2985 fps both with under .5 moa accuracy. ADG 300 Norma Magnum Brass. Buy Now. Considering the production by Hornady of 6.5 GAP 4S cases, the next logical step appeared to be ammunition coming off the line in Grand Island, Nebraska. Handloaders can take advantage of all these, but most commercial ammunition features 120-grain to 178-grain bullets. needing 1.3 mils for a 10 mph full value wind. Snipers Hide is a community of Snipers of all kinds, focusing on long range shooting, accuracy, and ballistics. I would expect the 300 PRC to mirror the performance. To comply with the new e-Privacy directive, we need to ask for your consent to set the cookies. Founded by Frank Galli in 2000, Snipers Hide has been offering informational videos, podcasts, and other support to its users in one location. I have a 7 LRM in a DTA, I've been pretty happy with it. John Whiddons dies are the nicest Ive ever used. So far on order, The Sherman requires case prep and fire forming which is rounds off of your barrel life unless you buy a hydroforming die $$$$$, Caliber = internal diameter of a barrel bore, outside diameter of a bullet. Retumbo. I neither believe in this minimum nor in shooting elk at 700 yards, but this is impressive performance for a standard-length cartridge nearing its 60th birthday. If you want a shorter barrel, look into the 7 SAUM, 7 RM and even the 7-08 , they'll all get it done nicely. Alabusa Learning. This precision does not mean the 7mm PRC is a long range target round only. It may not display this or other websites correctly. The maximum load for that bullet is 61.5 grains of H4350 powder, which yields a MV of 3133 fps at a chamber pressure of 61,900 psi. The shot prior a half grain less powder had minimal pressure signs. Have a 6.5 PRC and currently building a 7 SAUM. Has 260 rounds on it so its fully sped up. Hornady 7mm PRC overall length matches that of the 30-06 and 270 Win., so it fits standard length actions. I also see the counter that belted cases are reloaded just like non belted and it is a non issue. While testing some upgraded M700 Remington rifles at FTW Ranch last summer, I simultaneously test drove the pre-release 7mm PRC from Hornady. Another indicates 74-grains of Hodgdon 870 will churn up 2,954 fps. 28 nosler is a great case, barrel burner, but if you're looking for say 3000fps w/ 195 at lower pressure, use H1000 or Retumbo, adg/gunwerks brass, and the brass will last you forever, take care the barrel and it may go 1000 rounds. Had same dilemma, went with 7RM because even during the great Obama ammo shortage you could always find 7RM ammo. Full Member. LRHTB. Case has a good balance of capacity for the bullets I tested (180'd and 195's) Plenty of usable powder options. For the best experience on our site, be sure to turn on Javascript in your browser. 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